🚀 go-pugleaf

RetroBBS NetNews Server

Inspired by RockSolid Light RIP Retro Guy

3 total messages Started by chatnoir Tue, 19 Jun 2012 00:37
FW: Wed June 20 Colorado Water Gala : Grand Launch of Citizen Ballot Inititiatives to Protect CO Water
#11596
Author: chatnoir
Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2012 00:37
26 lines
2284 bytes
FW: Wed June 20 Colorado Water Gala : Grand Launch of Citizen Ballot
Inititiatives to Protect CO Water


please circulate to all your networks, using all media you use (e
mail, Facebook, tweeting,etc)  !
This Wednesday evening, June 20th (summer solstice ) starting at 6:30
pm
at the Mercury Cafe in Denver, upstairs

STEP OUT, STEP UP TO 'BE THE CHANGE', TO PROTECT COLORADO'S WATER !

All invited to Colorado Water Gala,
the Grand Launch of 2 citizen ballot initiatives
to protect Colorado's most precious resource, our water!

LIVE MUSIC AND ENTERTAINMENT:
Laura Goldhamer
Rich & Reggie: History Hunter Music
Randy Reeman Comedy Panel

SILENT AUCTION
SPECIAL PRESENTATIONS
$15.00 entrance, but no one turned away
PLEASE JOIN US FOR A BEAUTIFUL EVENING
AND FUNDRAISER FOR THE 2 CITIZEN BALLOT INITIATIVES
Re: FW: Wed June 20 Colorado Water Gala : Grand Launch of Citizen Ballot Inititiatives to Protect CO Water
#11597
Author: drouth
Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2012 16:26
41 lines
3813 bytes
On 6/18/2012 6:37 PM, chatnoir wrote:

> All invited to Colorado Water Gala,
> the Grand Launch of 2 citizen ballot initiatives
> to protect Colorado's most precious resource, our water!


http://coloradostatesman.com/content/993542-proposed-ballot-initiatives-water-rights-are-swirling-controversy

�It subjects every water right that we have in the state to being 
reconsidered, or curtailed, or denied entirely based on a determination 
of what�s in the public�s good,� said Doug Kemper, executive director of 
the Colorado Water Congress, which is opposing the initiatives along 
with the Colorado Water Conservation Board ďż˝ part of the Department of 
Natural Resources ďż˝ and the Colorado River Water Conservation District.

Opponents point out that water frequently does not naturally exist in 
Colorado, and therefore government must step in to divert sufficient 
quantities to sustain human settlement and enterprise in Colorado. 
Critics say the state�s current appropriation system is �fair� and 
�orderly,� proving to be �flexible� and �successful.�

�The adoption of either of these initiatives would result in takings of 
private and public water rights that Coloradans rely on for beneficial 
uses for health and human safety as well as economic benefit,ďż˝ states a 
resolution adopted by the board of the Colorado River Water Conservation 
District.

The Colorado Water Conservation Board has raised separate concerns about 
impacting more than 150 years of court opinions and legislation 
governing water rights. Kemper shares those concerns. �If you go down 
that path, then you turn 150 years of water law on its head, you just 
turn it upside down,ďż˝ he said.

Kemper also worries about unintended consequences with opening all of 
the state�s streams to public access when many of those streams are 
currently considered to be private land.

�The ability for people to supply water for municipal, industrial and 
commercial agricultural needs really becomes in jeopardy; it undermines 
the whole constitutional foundation for our
Re: FW: Wed June 20 Colorado Water Gala : Grand Launch of Citizen Ballot Inititiatives to Protect CO Water
#11599
Author: chatnoir
Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2012 01:42
130 lines
8086 bytes
On Jun 19, 10:26 am, drouth <a...@dev.nul> wrote:
> On 6/18/2012 6:37 PM, chatnoir wrote:
>
> > All invited to Colorado Water Gala,
> > the Grand Launch of 2 citizen ballot initiatives
> > to protect Colorado's most precious resource, our water!
>
> http://coloradostatesman.com/content/993542-proposed-ballot-initiativ...
>
> “It subjects every water right that we have in the state to being
> reconsidered, or curtailed, or denied entirely based on a determination
> of what’s in the public’s good,” said Doug Kemper, executive director of
> the Colorado Water Congress, which is opposing the initiatives along
> with the Colorado Water Conservation Board — part of the Department of
> Natural Resources — and the Colorado River Water Conservation District.
>
> Opponents point out that water frequently does not naturally exist in
> Colorado, and therefore government must step in to divert sufficient
> quantities to sustain human settlement and enterprise in Colorado.
> Critics say the state’s current appropriation system is “fair” and
> “orderly,” proving to be “flexible” and “successful.”
>
> “The adoption of either of these initiatives would result in takings of
> private and public water rights that Coloradans rely on for beneficial
> uses for health and human safety as well as economic benefit,” states a
> resolution adopted by the board of the Colorado River Water Conservation
> District.
>
> The Colorado Water Conservation Board has raised separate concerns about
> impacting more than 150 years of court opinions and legislation
> governing water rights. Kemper shares those concerns. “If you go down
> that path, then you turn 150 years of water law on its head, you just
> turn it upside down,” he said.
>
> Kemper also worries about unintended consequences with opening all of
> the state’s streams to public access when many of those streams are
> currently considered to be private land.
>
> “The ability for people to supply water for municipal, industrial and
> commercial agricultural needs really becomes in jeopardy; it undermines
> the whole constitutional foundation for our

Your not protecting our water!

https://www.propublica.org/article/whiff-of-phenol-spells-trouble

headline:

Whiff of Phenol Spells Trouble
by Abrahm Lustgarten
The stench of phenol was overpowering, wafting from mud taken from a
layer of rock thousands of feet beneath southern Ohio.

It was 1989 and workers for the Aristech Chemical Corp. had begun
drilling a disposal well for dangerous, chemical-laden waste from the
company's acetone manufacturing plant in Haverhill.


 The well site was next to two older Aristech disposal wells, in a
spot where federal and state regulators believed hazardous materials
would remain safely tucked away forever almost 6,000 feet under the
earth’s surface.

But the phenol – a deadly chemical used in Aristech’s processes that
is known to cause internal burns, muscle spasms and organ failure –
indicated that something might have gone wrong.

Environmental regulators suspected that the chemical had somehow
drifted upward from the first two wells, travelling as much as 1,400
feet through the very rock expected to contain it.

If confirmed, their suspicions had broader implications: The type of
disposal wells Aristech was using were among the most stringently
regulated and monitored in the country.

To get permission for the new well — the first of its kind drilled
after new national environmental rules went into effect — Aristech
needed to prove to the Environmental Protection Agency that its waste
would remain trapped for at least 10,000 years. The company had made
that case for the two existing wells, using some of the most advanced
computer modeling and the best geological science available at the
time.

A leak would mean that even injection wells subject to the strictest
regulations might not be as safe as scientists thought.

At first, Aristech’s managers denied that any leak had occurred. In
letters written to Ohio’s Environmental Protection Agency, they said
the pollution – still 4,000 feet below ground – could have been caused
by other injection wells in the area, or by spills on the surface.
They accused the state EPA of botching its investigation. The company
even appealed to the agency’s director to intercede, without success.

“Your close personal attention to this proceeding has become
essential,” Paul Kaplow, Aristech’s environment and safety manager,
wrote to Ohio’s chief environmental official, Richard Shank, in July
1989. Kaplow said that Ohio’s “lower-level” environmental regulators
were acting in a way that was “wholly inappropriate.”

Federal and state investigators turned the half-drilled well into a
monitoring station to collect underground data, and took samples of
rock from nearby to examine it for fractures that could have allowed
waste to leak.

By the mid-1990s, investigators confirmed that waste had indeed
migrated upwards from Aristech’s older wells, probably through a
network of small fractures in the rock. Scientists thought the
pressure used to force waste deep into the wells had helped crack the
rock and push the contaminants back up.

Their inquiry turned to the future: It had taken 23 years for the
waste – leaking at a rate of 2.5 gallons a minute -- to move 1,400
feet. Would the chemicals travel thousands of feet further and wind up
in drinking water supplies? How long would that take? More than 1.4
billion gallons of chemicals were dissipating beneath the site.

For another decade, the EPA and the state of Ohio studied the site for
signs that the waste was still on the move. During that time, the
concentration of the contaminants increased in the deep monitoring
well, according to Ohio records obtained by ProPublica. Pressure
readings taken in that well continued to increase, another sign that
the force of injection could still be pushing the waste upward, even
after injections into the two original wells ceased in 1996.

Contaminants also began to appear in a shallow drinking water
monitoring well drilled to 80 feet below the surface: chloride,
barium, iron. Ohio officials wondered whether these compounds, which
occur naturally but far beneath the surface, also resulted from the
changes deep underground. ... (cont)
Thread Navigation

This is a paginated view of messages in the thread with full content displayed inline.

Messages are displayed in chronological order, with the original post highlighted in green.

Use pagination controls to navigate through all messages in large threads.

Back to All Threads