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Re: What about child pornography?

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From: Daniel Zabetakis
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 16:17
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In article <BETSYS.92Nov10193758@ra.cs.umb.edu> betsys@cs.umb.edu (Elizabeth Schwartz) writes:
>In my case, I feel literally in the middle because we DO feed some
>sites, and some of my users HAVE complained about child pornography in
>the alt.binaries.pictures.groups. 

   This goes right to the heart of the problem, as far as I am concerned.
I keep a fairly close eye on a.b.p.e, and I have seen nothing that I feel
certain is child pornography.
   The only thing that may be illegal is the perennial Traci Lords stuff (low
resolution and fuzzy) that may be from her legal films anyway.
    I think some of the confusion over this is a misunderstanding of what
legal and illegal mean in terms of pornogrphy. As I understand it, nothing
is illegal until it is ruled so by a court, and even then it only applies
locally. There is no test for pornographic content in terms of child porn,
and there is no test for obscenity in terms of other porn. I may be wrong,
but I haven't heard is reasonably argued otherwise.

   By 'test', I mean a procedure where you can determine if what you produce
is legal or not. And I think that both child and obscene porn must be judged
to lack serious artistic, educational, or scientific value.

DanZ



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Subject: Re: What about child pornography?
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