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ropg@ooc.uva.nl wrote:
>Yeah, hang the hackers and even the students that just play around,
>hang all those ugly 12 year olds that just walk through our 'heavy'
>security. Why not hang kids that ring your bell and then run away
>(after all, they were trying to get access, and if you had a door
>buzzer, you would maybe have opened the door for them).

 You just blew your credibility, Rop.  Had you not taken this
"screaming activist" stance, I'd probably read the rest of what you
have to say with a lot less bias and till.
 And just as a note, a user mailing a password file out so someone
else can hack on it is about as FAR from "playing around" as you can get.

>> If anyone would do this and uses or distributes the passwords, and
>>it would come out (as it usually does) all bets are off: the person
>>in question will be suspended and/or denied all access to computers.
>>YOU CAN GO TO JAIL even, nowadays, for such a stunt.
>
>Not in democracies.

 Do you think for a second that a large corporation wouldn't
completely demolish anyone that gave away company trade secrets or the
like, on the scale that giving away a system's passwd file is on?
(which could surrender the entire network to attack)

>And kids, if you want to get a modem, get a license for it first, or the
>on-line police will come and raid your house for conspiracy to overthrow
>the government. Do NOT (I repeat NOT) try to learn something from the
>structure of UNIX, in fact, give up C and program in COBOL only!

 My, anything can be taken to an absurd extreme, can't it?

 While I don't agree with the result of GA's actions (although I'm
glad to see the guy was only suspended, and not full-fledged expelled),
I have to back them up on their original premise---if one of my users
mailed my passwd file out to anyone, I wouldn't just pat him/her on
the hand and say that they'd been bad.  I wouldn't drive them onto a
cross either, though.

Brendan
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