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Re: SUSPEND SYSOPS, NOT STUDENTS

#715
From: Jon Allen Boone
Date: Wed, 19 Jun 1991 23:43
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jarober@aplcen.apl.jhu.edu (DE Robertson james an 740-9172) writes:
> From what I have read, you are AMORAL. respassing and violating my right to
> privacy is not an alternate morality, it is the absence of one. Just because
> you know HOW to take an action does not make it ok.

  While I agree that the poster was really naive, you, jarober, are
anything but a philosopher.  Certainly, AMORALITY is a sense of right
and wrong - in the sense that you have some ability (whether innate or
beaten into you by others) to verbally and physically state and act
upon a patter of right and wrong with consistency.  Now, in your case,
there are certain things which are right (you feel ok doing them) and
certain things which are wrong (you don't feel ok doing them).  If I
am AMORAL, then I too have a patter (everything is ok).  Now, this man
is not AMORAL, from what I have seen.  He just is a lot less uptight
than you.  It's like saying that it's ok to know how to rip off the
phone company (this means it's right) but it's not ok to rip off the
phone company (this means it's wrong).  See, obviously he has a sense
of right and wrong (assuming he subscribes to that belief).  

   Now, when I say "I have the right to check your doors and windows
to see if they will allow me to get in and not only that but I have a
right to get in and take things if I want and kill you if I want and
perhaps, if I feel like it, even drink all your Kool-Aid or
Coke-A-Cola or somesuch" THAT IS AMORALITY (a belief that there isn't
a valid line to draw in order to form the dialectic of right and
wrong).


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| "He divines remedies against injuries;   | "Words are drugs."           |
|  he knows how to turn serious accidents  |     -Antero Alli             |
|  to his own advantage; whatever does not |                              |
|  kill him makes him stronger."           | "Culture is for bacteria."   |
|                   - Friedrich Nietzsche  |     - Christopher Hyatt      |
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From: jb3o+@andrew.cmu.edu (Jon Allen Boone)
Newsgroups: comp.admin.policy
Subject: Re: SUSPEND SYSOPS, NOT STUDENTS
Message-ID: <wcLyktu00j5uI1oolE@andrew.cmu.edu>
Date: 19 Jun 91 23:43:53 GMT
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