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Re: Student suspended for distributing /etc/passwd

#717
From: Jon Allen Boone
Date: Wed, 19 Jun 1991 23:49
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Irving_Wolfe@happym.wa.com writes:
> I am not concluding that passing along /etc/passwd should be
> considered even mildly criminal.  But it is entirely reasonable to
> kick him off the system completely for a term or two, so that some
> work in the real world might give him more prudent judgment.  A
> year's delay in the student's career is of minor consequence,
> compared with the valuable gift of maturity, insight, and
> consideration for others that the suspension might encourage.

  Of course, this is an opinion, which, as usualy, some people will
not agree with.  Paternalism sucks (I think).  I think that a year
setback in a student's carreer IS a big thing.  I know - I'm one of
those students.  Of course, I'm also a sys-admin, but I don't play one
on T.V. (yet!)  Some people would argue that I've matured since my
suspension from classes for inattentiveness, etc.  I don't agree -
I've not learned anything new about maturity or responsiblity or any
other of the supposedly wonderful benefits of suspension.  The only
pros are that I have learned a lot more about Unix-like systems, I
have learned to think better of myself and that others CAN care about
me, and I have showed that if I try, I CAN make a 4.0 and work a
full-time job at the same time, all without assitance from my parents.
(Note: I have not learned anything new, I've known this since my
junior year in high-school (5 years ago!) - I just was so busy
REACTING to other people and not acting like I wanted to that I
couldn't show them that I was right!)

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From: jb3o+@andrew.cmu.edu (Jon Allen Boone)
Newsgroups: comp.admin.policy
Subject: Re: Student suspended for distributing /etc/passwd
Message-ID: <AcLyqKG00j5uQ1opFT@andrew.cmu.edu>
Date: 19 Jun 91 23:49:42 GMT
References: <PCG.91Jun14182440@aberdb.aber.ac.uk>,
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