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Article #755Re: Possibly nefarious users
From: Leonard Erickson
Date: Tue, 25 Jun 1991 06:17
Date: Tue, 25 Jun 1991 06:17
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dave@jato.jpl.nasa.gov (Dave Hayes) writes: <leonard@qiclab.scn.rain.com (Leonard Erickson) writes: <>>IMHO, unless a "guest" account user is notified somehow (eg. <>>/etc/motd) that "this account is _only_ for use by faculty in Uni. of <>>X", you don't have a case against anyone outside the U. using the same <>>account, since the scope of "legal use" was not made known to him/her. <>No. The law is exactly the opposite. Unless *you* know that the account <>is for general access, you do not have the right to use it. There are <>legitmate reasons for having a "guest" account (with no password) on a <>system. But just as with an unlocked door, *you* are not the person <>it was left unlocked for. <Can you guys explain, then, the case where charges were dropped in an <unauthorized entry prosecution because the system said: "Welcome to..."? Sure. In *that* case they'd done the exact opposite. Rather than saying "keep out" or not saying anything, they said "Come on in!". BTW, I don't think a lot of that decision. But that *was* the logic. This is why our "remote" login gives a "Only authorized users..." message if an unauthorized ID tries to use it. If someone is using an authorized ID without actually being that user, it's illegal access anyway... -- Leonard Erickson leonard@qiclab.rain.com personal: CIS: [70524,2603] 70524.2603@compuserve.com business: CIS: [70376,1107] 76376.1107@compuserve.com
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Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!bonnie.concordia.ca!uunet!decwrl!ogicse!qiclab!leonard From: leonard@qiclab.scn.rain.com (Leonard Erickson) Newsgroups: comp.admin.policy Subject: Re: Possibly nefarious users Message-ID: <1991Jun25.061715.6095@qiclab.scn.rain.com> Date: 25 Jun 91 06:17:15 GMT References: <2D.-_.N@cs.widener.edu> <1991Jun6.214915.18946@athena.mit.edu> <1991Jun7.164102.672@progress.com> <ADRIANHO.91Jun7190303@barkley.berkeley.edu> <1991Jun10.052806.4214@qiclab.scn.rain.com> <1991Jun10.193515.21451@jato.jpl.nasa.gov> Reply-To: 70465.203@compuserve.com Organization: SCN Research/Qic Laboratories of Tigard, Oregon. Lines: 32