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Re: RFC on my "abuse"

#760
From: Neil Rickert
Date: Tue, 25 Jun 1991 20:08
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In article <1991Jun25.192914.23335@cs.utk.edu> Dave Sill <de5@ornl.gov> writes:
>Attempting to anonymous ftp to random sites is, in my opinion, rude at
>worst.  But any site admin that freaks out over the occasional attempt
>hasn't got a firm grasp on reality.

  Attempting to anonymous ftp to my site is rude at worst.  Using my site
to do something rude to another site is an abuse of privileges.  If he wants
to pay for his own computer and connection, the rudeness is his problem.

  Put it another way.  I am pretty tolerant of users doing a lot of
experimentation including some pretty dumb things, providing they have
respect for other users.  But when a user puts me in the position of having
to explain to the administrator of some other site that he "was only
experimenting and doing dumb things" he has gone too far.  Yet, even then,
if a user on my system tries to manually ftp to one or two other sites, and
the administrator of those sites complains, I will defend my user to the hilt,
even though he may have shown poor judgement.  But when my user repeatedly
makes a nuisance of himself or, worse still, automates the process his actions
become indefensible.

>What he did wasn't illegal, and wasn't "totally different" from the
>expected usage of the net: communicating and sharing information.

 There are a lot of rude and offensive things people can do which are not
illegal.  And as far as I am concerned, they can do them as much as they like
in their own house or on their own computer.  If they do them in someone
elses house or on someone elses computer they should expect to be kicked out.

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  Neil W. Rickert, Computer Science               <rickert@cs.niu.edu>
  Northern Illinois Univ.
  DeKalb, IL 60115                                   +1-815-753-6940
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From: rickert@mp.cs.niu.edu (Neil Rickert)
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Subject: Re: RFC on my "abuse"
Message-ID: <1991Jun25.200857.15553@mp.cs.niu.edu>
Date: 25 Jun 91 20:08:57 GMT
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