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Re: RFC on my "abuse"

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From: Neil Rickert
Date: Mon, 01 Jul 1991 02:06
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In article <1991Jul1.014426.5808@jato.jpl.nasa.gov> dave@jato.jpl.nasa.gov writes:
>rickert@mp.cs.niu.edu (Neil Rickert) writes:
>
>> There are a lot of rude and offensive things people can do which are not
>>illegal.  And as far as I am concerned, they can do them as much as they like
>>in their own house or on their own computer.  If they do them in someone
>>elses house or on someone elses computer they should expect to be kicked out.
>
>Now if your site was owned by YOU, I could get to that. 
>
>If you are running a university installation, however, I'd say that even
>though it's a service provided by you and your group...to the students
>those are public computers. 

  I suppose it is alright for a student to make annoying 'phone calls too,
as long as he makes them from a university owned phone?

  Now before you rush and say that the analogy is bad, let me point out that
there are organizations on Internet who send strongly worded complaints
when someone on my host makes an unsuccessful attempt to login.  And they
don't always send the complaints to me or to anyone else on this host.
In at least one case the complaints were sent to someone who controls our
network connection, and could prevent ALL attempts at anonymous ftp.  To
serve the best interest of all users of this system, I will do what is
necessary to prevent such a shut off.

>Dave Hayes - Network & Communications Engineering - JPL / NASA - Pasadena CA
>dave@elxr.jpl.nasa.gov       dave@jato.jpl.nasa.gov           ames!elroy!dxh

 Your from nasa.gov.  Yep.  That is the organization which has been so
quick to complain.  If you want me to completely ignore users on my
system who make unwelcomed attempts at ftp, telnet, rlogin, etc, to other
sites, you should start by persuading your organization to ignore those
attempts.  Then start persuading the other government labs that are so highly
sensitive.

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  Neil W. Rickert, Computer Science               <rickert@cs.niu.edu>
  Northern Illinois Univ.
  DeKalb, IL 60115                                   +1-815-753-6940
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From: rickert@mp.cs.niu.edu (Neil Rickert)
Newsgroups: comp.admin.policy
Subject: Re: RFC on my "abuse"
Message-ID: <1991Jul1.020659.5378@mp.cs.niu.edu>
Date: 1 Jul 91 02:06:59 GMT
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