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Re: Banned Computer Material 1992
#194
Author: Hank Nussbacher
Date: Sun, 04 Oct 1992 11:44
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>From: kadie@herodotus.cs.uiuc.edu (Carl M. Kadie)
>I, of course, can't prove that academic freedom is morally good. I can
>report, however, that an important academic freedom statement, the
>Joint Statement on Rights and Freedoms of Students, has been endorsed
>by virtually every academic group in the U.S. starting with:
>
>   American Association of University Professors
>   U. S. National Student Association
>   Association of American Colleges
>   National Association of Student Personnel Administrators
>   National Association of Woman Deans and Counselors

So if the above statement has been endorsed by every academic group
in the USA, does that mean it has been endorsed by every academic
group in the world?

Is your list just for academic institutions or for every Internet
site?  If a church or religious organization is a member of the
Internet (and there are these days) and keeping GIFs in their
system was against their religious tenets would they also appear
on your list?  If Oral Roberts University would not allow sex
newsgroups due to their religious beliefs - would they be added
to your "Banned" list?  If the Vatican were connected, and didn't
allow certain newsgroups, would they be on your Banned list?  If
certain Moslem countries had universities on the Internet and their
Law prohibits sexual matter as contained in certain newsgroups,
and the law in their land in regards to pornography supercedes
academic freedom since their law is based on the Koran - would you
still include them in your Banned list?

Those of us who attempt to make sure no censorship takes place
and that no Usenet list get censored out, find your list of little
help and as a matter of fact find it a hinderance.

Stick to the USA where you have "statements" endorsed by major
academic institutions, don't apply your rules to other countries
unless you have something to back it up with (other than the UN
Declaration - which you suprisingly don't use for the USA cases
since you have "statements" instead - which means that the UN
Declaration is too broad and doesn't apply in this case - since
it was chartered for serious matters like death, rape, genocide,
and not for Playboy GIFs), and drop the computer code banned
entries.

Place a very clear header at the top as to who you represent and
what organizations you are targetting and what sort of parameters
you use for adding in a 'banned' entry.

Hank Nussbacher
Israel
Re: Banned Computer Material 1992
#198
Author: Carl M. Kadie
Date: Mon, 05 Oct 1992 13:48
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Hank Nussbacher <HANK@BARILVM.BITNET> writes:

[...]
>Is your list just for academic institutions or for every Internet
>site?
[...]

Just for academic institutions.

========= Excerpt from ftp.eff.org:pub/academic/banned.1992 ====
Banned Computer Material 1992

Inspired by Banned Book Week '92, this is a list of computer material
banned or challenged in academia in 1992.[...]

The list proper starts after a list of the academic institutions where
bans or challenges have occurred.[...]
[....]
==================================================================
- Carl
-- 
Carl Kadie -- I do not represent EFF; this is just me.
 =kadie@eff.org, kadie@cs.uiuc.edu =
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