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Started by Jack Eifrig
Sun, 26 May 1991 21:37
Responsible SysAdmin Behavior
Author: Jack Eifrig
Date: Sun, 26 May 1991 21:37
Date: Sun, 26 May 1991 21:37
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In article <BRENDAN.91May26150833@shirley.cs.widener.edu> brendan@cs.widener.edu writes:
>In article <n4ghm7-@rpi.edu> rodney@picasso.ipl.rpi.edu (Rodney Peck II) writes:
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> fair enough. I'm in a similar position with regard to policy enforcement.
> I can see this as being a place where disgruntled students flame at people
> who are simply trying to do their jobs. It's not a pretty vision.
>
>I certainly hope not---when I came up with the idea for this, I saw it
>as a way for admins to vent their frustrations (or lack of same) and
>try to get an idea of how other people deal with things. I've made it
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>my own personal crusade to mail-fry any twerp that sees this as a way
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>for him or her to "get back" at their local systems administrator.
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>This group is meant to help, not turn into the kind of fracas that
>happened in news.admin with SBrack vs OSU.
>
> Brendan Kehoe - Widener Sun Network Manager - brendan@cs.widener.edu
> Widener University in Chester, PA A Bloody Sun-Dec War Zone
Well, this is the kind of responsible system administrator attitude
I like to see! Do you _really_ believe that it is appropriate for a SysAdmin
to "mail-fry" anyone, for whatever reason? With authority comes responsibility:
SysAdmins have a _greater_ responsibility to behave with decorum than the
average user.
It's attitudes and actions like the above that prompts "twerps" to
complain about their local administrators.
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Re: Responsible SysAdmin Behavior
Author: Brendan Kehoe
Date: Mon, 27 May 1991 03:26
Date: Mon, 27 May 1991 03:26
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eifrig@cs.jhu.edu wrote:
>In article <BRENDAN.91May26150833@shirley.cs.widener.edu> brendan@cs.widener.edu writes:
>>try to get an idea of how other people deal with things. I've made it
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>my own personal crusade to mail-fry any twerp that sees this as a way
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>for him or her to "get back" at their local systems administrator.
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
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> Well, this is the kind of responsible system administrator attitude
>I like to see! Do you _really_ believe that it is appropriate for a SysAdmin
>to "mail-fry" anyone, for whatever reason? With authority comes responsibility:
>SysAdmins have a _greater_ responsibility to behave with decorum than the
>average user.
I suppose I probably could've been more delicate in my wording; we all
get in strange moods (especially on a balmy Sunday afternoon).
--
Brendan Kehoe - Widener Sun Network Manager - brendan@cs.widener.edu
Widener University in Chester, PA A Bloody Sun-Dec War Zone
Re: Responsible SysAdmin Behavior
Author: Jon Alperin
Date: Tue, 28 May 1991 01:06
Date: Tue, 28 May 1991 01:06
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Not too get you guys off the subject, but there are a lot of us out here who are sys admins for industries, and this forum looks (looked?) like it could be interesting. I realize that there are a lot of educational facilities out there, but lets not single out students (and university administrators) as the only ones who read these here newgroups..... -- Jon Alperin Bell Communications Research ---> Internet: jona@iscp.bellcore.com ---> Voicenet: (908) 699-8674 ---> UUNET: uunet!bcr!jona * All opinions and stupid questions are my own *
There are companies on the Internet? (was Re: Responsible SysAdmin Behavior)
Author: Insert Name Here
Date: Fri, 31 May 1991 22:26
Date: Fri, 31 May 1991 22:26
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On 28 May 91 01:06:28 GMT, jona@iscp.Bellcore.COM (Jon Alperin) said: > Not too get you guys off the subject, but there are a lot of us out here > who are sys admins for industries, and this forum looks (looked?) like it > could be interesting. I realize that there are a lot of educational > facilities out there, but lets not single out students (and university > administrators) as the only > ones who read these here newgroups..... Well then, by all means contribute! As far as I know this newsgoup hasn't been here more than a week or two, and just because there has been a lot of educational traffic you shouldn't keep yourself silent if you have something interesting to say. I hear tell that commercial sites can have their educational value as well. P.S. I am not a system administrator, and never have been. But I do have an incurable habit of posting to USENET. -Ho Yi <lambast@buengf.bu.edu>
Re: There are companies on the Internet?
Author: Official Random
Date: Sat, 01 Jun 1991 01:51
Date: Sat, 01 Jun 1991 01:51
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Yes, there are quite a few corporate sites.... I like to see people on from the .mil and .gov sites, though most of them seem fairly reclusive, especially in comparison to the .edu's. Their sysadmins must have some interesting stories to tell, though. [For those who think .gov sites don't have any fun, read Cliff Stoll's book, "The Cuckoo's Egg." :)] I'm in favour of hearing anything the BellCoRe gang has to tell :) -shag -- >-----------------------------------------------------------------------------< >Shag is: < > A. The reincarnation of Hagbard, famous German hacker. < > B. The most sexually prolific KGB agent in Hainesport NJ (pop 3000) < > C. A word you should never say to anyone in the UK. < > D. A variable type in ANSI/ISO Standard C. < > E. A mild-mannered small-town PC programmer < > F. A random creature from the depths of Hades. < > * G. Any or all of the above, also birchall@pilot.njin.net < >-----------------------------------------------------------------------------<
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