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Article #7Re: So, genetic algorithms have nothing to do with genetics?
From: James E. Kittock
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 09:29
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 09:29
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In article <1jlmb2INNjp4@gaia.ucs.orst.edu> choup@ava.bcc.orst.edu (Ping Chou) writes: > Or the development of genetic algorithms has >completed? I doubt anyone would argue this. For example, genetic programming just came on the scene within the past couple of years and it has the potential to churn up the field significantly. > Don't you think you may be able to discover new algorithms from >studying genetics? Of course. But geneticists calling us stupid and telling us to go back to school doesn't help, does it? In particular, I happen to be intrigued by the fact that genes not only produce physical structure and regulate cellular events, they effectively regulate their own expression. This sort of feedback should be very interesting to investigate! > Do you really believe the complete genome of HIV is just a 4-state >bits encoded string? Well, in a sense, sure. Why? What do you know that we don't? How about educate us rather than chastise us! > Then please, give youself a chance, take a look at any modern >genetics text book, and be a cross-discipline expert. It is pretty arrogant to assume that people who work with genetic algorithms have no knowledge of genetics! Furthermore, different people have different interests, and you can't be sure what each person ought to study. For example, there is relatively little need for someone interested in modelling the evolution of populations to have a thorough understanding of, say, molecular biology even though it relates to genetics. > BTW, I would appreciate any reasonable arguments because I'm trying >to learn ai-genetic from the genetics side. Well, I suggest you go back to school and take a course in each of the following: programming, data structures, algorithms, parallel algorithms, automata theory, etc. etc. etc. It's a joke, get it? For those non-biologists interested in getting some background on cell physiology and/or genetics, I highly recommend "The Living Cell", by Christian de Duve from the Scientific American library series. It is getting a bit "old" (1985?) but I assume the basic top-level picture it presents is still mostly "correct". More importantly it is scientific without being pedantic and boring and yet it is not too "popular". And I would have to second Ping's suggestion to study cross-disciplinarily. It can be surprisingly useful. --james, "Don't know much about biology 'cept what I need to" -- james kittock :: stanford cs grad student :: duke '92 :: go blue devils!! "Adaptation is a recursive process in living systems." -- Alex. M. Andrew
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Newsgroups: comp.ai.genetic Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!stanford.edu!CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU!Xenon.Stanford.EDU!jek From: jek@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (James E. Kittock) Subject: Re: So, genetic algorithms have nothing to do with genetics? Message-ID: <1993Jan21.092927.4669@CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU> Sender: news@CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University. References: <1jlmb2INNjp4@gaia.ucs.orst.edu> Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 09:29:27 GMT Lines: 66