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Re: Chinese Room by Shannon and McCarthy from 1956

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From: Cliff Joslyn
Date: Sat, 03 Feb 1990 02:42
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In article <HWAJIN.90Feb1191721@ganges.wrs.com> hwajin@ganges.wrs.com (Hwa Jin Bae) writes:
>I cannot help but marvelling at his career that is entirely
>based on this Chinese Room nonsense.  

My own impression is that the Chinese room argument is a correct and
obviously simple rebuttal to the claim that the TTT is both a necessary
and sufficient condition for something to be intelligent.  I doubt that
this is what Turing claimed, however, and it's hardly a stopping point
for discussion in cognitive science.  Rather it's a small, natural and
naive starting point in any discussion about machine intelligence. 

As to Searle's personal success with the idea, it's probably just that
his Gedanken experiment is nicely held in the mind in a "cute" manner,
and it's very clever.  Again, Shannon summarized the position in that
one paragraph, yet he wasn't famous for it. 
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From: cjoslyn@bingvaxu.cc.binghamton.edu (Cliff Joslyn)
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