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Re: Simulating thinking is NOT like simulating flying

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From: Roland Rambau
Date: Wed, 07 Feb 1990 17:46
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norman@cogsci.ucsd.EDU (Donald A Norman-UCSD Cog Sci Dept) writes:

->     Do not confuse simulation with reality.  A simulated airplane does not
->     actually fly: a simulated intelligence does not actually think.
->     
->The point which I address now is that a real airplane moves through the
->air, which a simulation can't do, but a real human having thoughts moves
->information, which a simulation can do.

I think You have left out an essential point, that is: Is the simulation
'realtime' ? This is IMHO _not_ an unimportant technical detail.

Consider as a gedankenexperiment some _real human_ exactly like You and
me :-)  but living on a timescale several orders of magnitude different
from ours ( So his lifespan would be either several million years, or
just parts of a second ).
  Would we accept this fictious man as an intelligent being like us,
or would we rather call it a total different physical phenomenon ?

I suppose we would _not_ call it intelligent, and so we do not call
simulations intelligent if they are orders of magnitude slow.
( Its not a coincidence that most intelligence tests are to be
performed under strong time constraints :-)

--
             I know that You believe You understand what You think I said, but
             I'm not sure You realize that what You heard is not what I meant.

Roland Rambau

  rra@cochise.pcs.com,   {unido|pyramid}!pcsbst!rra,   2:507/414.2.fidonet 
             I know that You believe You understand what You think I said, but
             I'm not sure You realize that what You heard is not what I meant.

Roland Rambau
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Subject: Re: Simulating thinking is NOT like simulating flying
Keywords: Strong AI, Weak AI, methodology, simulating thought
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