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Article #8828Re: Simulating thinking is NOT like simulating flying
From: Roland Rambau
Date: Wed, 07 Feb 1990 17:46
Date: Wed, 07 Feb 1990 17:46
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norman@cogsci.ucsd.EDU (Donald A Norman-UCSD Cog Sci Dept) writes:
-> Do not confuse simulation with reality. A simulated airplane does not
-> actually fly: a simulated intelligence does not actually think.
->
->The point which I address now is that a real airplane moves through the
->air, which a simulation can't do, but a real human having thoughts moves
->information, which a simulation can do.
I think You have left out an essential point, that is: Is the simulation
'realtime' ? This is IMHO _not_ an unimportant technical detail.
Consider as a gedankenexperiment some _real human_ exactly like You and
me :-) but living on a timescale several orders of magnitude different
from ours ( So his lifespan would be either several million years, or
just parts of a second ).
Would we accept this fictious man as an intelligent being like us,
or would we rather call it a total different physical phenomenon ?
I suppose we would _not_ call it intelligent, and so we do not call
simulations intelligent if they are orders of magnitude slow.
( Its not a coincidence that most intelligence tests are to be
performed under strong time constraints :-)
--
I know that You believe You understand what You think I said, but
I'm not sure You realize that what You heard is not what I meant.
Roland Rambau
rra@cochise.pcs.com, {unido|pyramid}!pcsbst!rra, 2:507/414.2.fidonet
I know that You believe You understand what You think I said, but
I'm not sure You realize that what You heard is not what I meant.
Roland Rambau
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Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!utzoo!attcan!uunet!mcsun!unido!tub!fauern!tumuc!guug!pcsbst! From: roland@cochise.pcs.com (Roland Rambau) Newsgroups: comp.ai Subject: Re: Simulating thinking is NOT like simulating flying Keywords: Strong AI, Weak AI, methodology, simulating thought Message-ID: <1990Feb7.174646.245@pcsbst.pcs.com> Date: 7 Feb 90 17:46:46 GMT References: <13212@cs.yale.edu> <74@cogsci.ucsd.EDU> Sender: @pcsbst.pcs.com Organization: PCS Computer Systeme GmbH Lines: 35