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Re: more Chinese Room

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From: Chris Weyand
Date: Wed, 14 Feb 1990 02:20
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kohout@wam.umd.edu (Robert C. Kohout) writes:

[Good summation of Searle's ideas deleted]


>3) All Searle really shows is something that we all know already. No
>matter how grandiose our program, the bare metal of the digital computer
>as we currently know it will never itself become aware. Big deal. The
>Chinese Room might start a lot of great, go-nowhere discussions, but it
>proves, very, very little.

Wait a minute are you saying that Searle is showing that the computer as
a hardware architecture can not be aware or no computer + program can be aware?
Yes I would agree that we all know the former is true.  Just like a dead brain
can't be aware (as far as I know :->).  But if you mean that Searle has
shown the latter then I think he would have proven a lot!

Chris Weyand
weyand@csli.Stanford.Edu
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Subject: Re: more Chinese Room
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