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Article #9147Re: "Project-Proposers Anonymous"
From: Donald Tees
Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1998 00:00
Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1998 00:00
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As a fellow sufferer for some thirty years, you have my complete sympathy. Mentifex wrote in message <368677f2.0@news.victoria.tc.ca>... >Hello, my name is *Mentifex, and I am an AI Project Proposer. > >Jorn Barger in comp.ai on 27 Dec 1998 has called us together: >> It would be enlightening, I think, to compile a timeline >> of every over-ambitious AI project that's been announced >> on comp.ai.* in the last decade or so... [...] > > At last! An on-line AI/PPA support group, thanks to Jorn! > >> (It's unfortunate when this sort of idealism gets attacked. The >> programs we need most _necessarily_ take the longest to design.) > > It keeps getting worse; it's terminal. Jorn, can any of your co- > dependent co-pathetics top this sad narrative of how AI project-ism > ruined a promising career in... (uh-oh, even the career is history) > embourgeoisement (for lack of a better term)? > > My fellow stumblers on the AI heapslag, do any of you recognize > these tell-tale signs in your own **Entgleisung approach to AI? > > For instance, not only do you spend every waking hour on your > AI mindscheme (such as http://www.scn.org/~mentifex/ chez moi), > but you inflict it upon hapless netnewsers who shan't escape? > > Oh, yes, and to top it all, do you have a DIAGRAM? Gotta see > http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Agora/7256/mindmap.html Q.E.D. > > If so, get help fast, before... before your mega-mungo-karma > unravels into recent afflictions like sideswiping the book of > Knuth, "The Art of Computer Programming" and meta-mangling it > into http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Agora/acm.html "The Art > of Computer Mindmaking" (Association for Computing Machinery). > > Whatever you do, do not FINISH your AI project (you're done, > in more ways than one). That's the scary part, Jorn: Project > Mentifex is actually drawing to a close. Lo, the source code > http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Agora/7256/m-forth Mind.forth > is at Internet Web Release number eighteen (18) and counting! > The program is about to come alive and quicken, frankly, Frank- > ensteinically. Remember that line in Vernor Vinge's article on > http://www.gcs.caltech.edu/~phoenix/vinge/vinge-sing.html The > Singularity: "We were just tweaking some parameters..." and > then the AI came to life? > > And fellow recovering AI Project Proposers Anonymous, have you > ever tried to "harness the collective IQ of the Internet" as per > http://www.tuxedo.org/~esr/writings/cathedral-bazaar/ Eric Raymond's > theories about Linux and how Microsoft is afraid of free software? > > Have you proposed an AI Project like the "pdaimind" after filching > http://www.clickshop.com/pdkb/pdkb.html the PDKB ideas of Seth > Russell from his posts on the "Public Domain Knowledge Bank"? > Tsk! At your current burn rate, which will come first, AI or DOA? > >> -- >> I edit the Net: <URL:http://www.mcs.net/~jorn/html/weblogs/weblog.html> >>"The real gem among his musings is the weblog, a detailed daily account >> of Jorn's travels around the web. Watch a highly observant and >> thoughtful web surfer at work." -- UK Guardian, 21 October 1998 > >* Mentifex (Latin for "Mindmaker") >** Entgleisung (German for "derailment" -- from life, from reality)
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