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Re: "Project-Proposers Anonymous"

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From: Donald Tees
Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1998 00:00
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As a fellow sufferer for some thirty years, you have
my complete sympathy.

Mentifex wrote in message <368677f2.0@news.victoria.tc.ca>...
>Hello, my name is *Mentifex, and I am an AI Project Proposer.
>
>Jorn Barger in comp.ai on 27 Dec 1998 has called us together:
>> It would be enlightening, I think, to compile a timeline
>> of every over-ambitious AI project that's been announced
>> on comp.ai.* in the last decade or so...           [...]
>
>  At last!  An on-line AI/PPA support group, thanks to Jorn!
>
>> (It's unfortunate when this sort of idealism gets attacked.  The
>> programs we need most _necessarily_ take the longest to design.)
>
>  It keeps getting worse; it's terminal.  Jorn, can any of your co-
>  dependent co-pathetics top this sad narrative of how AI project-ism
>  ruined a promising career in... (uh-oh, even the career is history)
>  embourgeoisement (for lack of a better term)?
>
>  My fellow stumblers on the AI heapslag, do any of you recognize
>  these tell-tale signs in your own **Entgleisung approach to AI?
>
>  For instance, not only do you spend every waking hour on your
>  AI mindscheme (such as http://www.scn.org/~mentifex/ chez moi),
>  but you inflict it upon hapless netnewsers who shan't escape?
>
>  Oh, yes, and to top it all, do you have a DIAGRAM?  Gotta see
>  http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Agora/7256/mindmap.html Q.E.D.
>
>  If so, get help fast, before... before your mega-mungo-karma
>  unravels into recent afflictions like sideswiping the book of
>  Knuth, "The Art of Computer Programming" and meta-mangling it
>  into http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Agora/acm.html "The Art
>  of Computer Mindmaking" (Association for Computing Machinery).
>
>  Whatever you do, do not FINISH your AI project (you're done,
>  in more ways than one).  That's the scary part, Jorn:  Project
>  Mentifex is actually drawing to a close.  Lo, the source code
>  http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Agora/7256/m-forth Mind.forth
>  is at Internet Web Release number eighteen (18) and counting!
>  The program is about to come alive and quicken, frankly, Frank-
>  ensteinically.  Remember that line in Vernor Vinge's article on
>  http://www.gcs.caltech.edu/~phoenix/vinge/vinge-sing.html The
>  Singularity:  "We were just tweaking some parameters..." and
>  then the AI came to life?
>
>  And fellow recovering AI Project Proposers Anonymous, have you
>  ever tried to "harness the collective IQ of the Internet" as per
>  http://www.tuxedo.org/~esr/writings/cathedral-bazaar/ Eric Raymond's
>  theories about Linux and how Microsoft is afraid of free software?
>
>  Have you proposed an AI Project like the "pdaimind" after filching
>  http://www.clickshop.com/pdkb/pdkb.html the PDKB ideas of Seth
>  Russell from his posts on the "Public Domain Knowledge Bank"?
>  Tsk!  At your current burn rate, which will come first, AI or DOA?
>
>> --
>> I edit the Net: <URL:http://www.mcs.net/~jorn/html/weblogs/weblog.html>
>>"The real gem among his musings is the weblog, a detailed daily account
>> of Jorn's travels around the web.  Watch a highly observant and
>> thoughtful web surfer at work." -- UK Guardian, 21 October 1998
>
>* Mentifex (Latin for "Mindmaker")
>** Entgleisung (German for "derailment" -- from life, from reality)
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From: "Donald Tees" <donald@willmack.com>
Subject: Re: "Project-Proposers Anonymous"
Date: 1998/12/27
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