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Article #21Re: Open letter to Dave Olson, SGI [was SCSI vs. IPI]
From: Adams
Date: Thu, 06 Aug 1992 21:13
Date: Thu, 06 Aug 1992 21:13
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In article <PCG.92Aug6153327@aberdb.aber.ac.uk> pcg@aber.ac.uk (Piercarlo Grandi) writes: > No, something is badly wrong. Are you sure your read(2) calls are in > large units (this matters *a lot*!), say each read(2) is for an entire > 50KB frame? Yes. Everything else would be too troublesome to program. > Are you sure you have "properly" setup the filesystem parameters? > Are you sure the disks's and the controller's parameters are also > properly setup (e.g. enabling the read ahead buffer in the disk)? It was done under advice of SGI, Munich.... adams> You are right, the application stores data in files. It does not adams> read from raw disk. > But the SGI filesystem is famously efficient in the sense that it > delivers almost all the raw disk bandwidth. Sequential read rates of > well over 1MB/s are easily observed (and 1MB/s at 50KB/frame is already > 20 frames/s). Indeed the SGI filesystem is so well done that it delivers > almost all the raw speed in random reads too. So they hoped, but it would not work .... Interestingly most we talked to did _NOT_ observe 1MByte/s for large data blocks, but fairly less. > I get well over 300KB/s on a 400 MB SCSI disk reading from the > filesystem on my lowly 386, and I would get more if the SVR4 driver had > less appalling overheads. The original BSD FFS was getting 300KB/s reads > too, or one third of total bandwidth, ten years ago on a VAX-11/780. 1) Do you refer to SCSI on a VAX 11/780? Sure there was one controller, but our VAX-guys were less than satisfied with its performance and dumped it 12 years ago, superseded by an SMD-E-controller from Emulex together with approbriate disks. Improved I/O by a factor of 10.... 2) Most disk controllers by DEC were microcoded and very intelligent, weren't they? Details lost, as VAX 11/780 has been dumped meanwhile. best, adams
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Newsgroups: comp.arch.storage Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!math.fu-berlin.de!news.th-darmstadt.de!adams From: adams@pdv2.fmr.maschinenbau.th-darmstadt.de (Adams) Subject: Re: Open letter to Dave Olson, SGI [was SCSI vs. IPI] Sender: news@infoserver.th-darmstadt.de (The Usenet-News System) Message-ID: <ADAMS.92Aug6211332@PDV2.pdv2.fmr.maschinenbau.th-darmstadt.de> In-Reply-To: pcg@aber.ac.uk's message of 6 Aug 92 15: 33:27 GMT Date: Thu, 6 Aug 1992 21:13:32 GMT References: <BrCG6x.Jpp@acsu.buffalo.edu> <ADAMS.92Jul16014945@PDV2.pdv2.fmr.maschinenbau.th-darmstadt.de> <BrH2sz.5qM@csn.org> <ADAMS.92Jul16125743@PDV2.pdv2.fmr.maschinenbau.th-darmstadt.de> <nch5oa8@zuni.esd.sgi.com> <ADAMS.92Jul17162917@PDV2.pdv2.fmr.maschine <PCG.92Aug6153327@aberdb.aber.ac.uk> Nntp-Posting-Host: pdv2.fmr.maschinenbau.th-darmstadt.de Organization: TH-Darmstadt Lines: 51