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Article #41Re: SCSI (was Re: IPI-2 questions)
From: Rodney Doyle Van Meter III
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 07:16
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 07:16
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I said earlier that SCSI ids above 7 are disallowed. The standard implies this repeatedly, but I couldn't find anything that says so explicitly -- the closest was the sentence from the foreword I quoted before. Besides which, I now have to retract part of my statement (about there being no implementations of arbitration logic above id 7). The data book for for the NCR 53C720 (their 16-bit SCSI-2 processor) says it will allow you to specify an ID of up to 15. 8-15 are lower priority than 7-0. So, at least one vendor is building toward the future. The priorities, from highest to lowest, are 7 6 5 4 3 2 1 0 15 14 13 12 11 10 9 8. I hadn't thought of putting 15-8 below 7-0; this would allow mixed busses to work correctly (those which arbitrate with only 8 bits will always get priority over anything higher, so they don't even have to know the higher ones exist). of course, in a mixed bus, not all devices can talk to each other, so having them share the bus makes little sense anyway. A device which arbitrates with only 8 bits can never select a device with an id of 11, for example. The id 11 device can select an id 5 device, but cannot allow it to disconnect for fear that it will be unable to reconnect. Also, if the target (id 5) depends on knowing the id of the initiator, (11), it will believe that id is 0. I have heard that the NCR 53C720 is available in the U.S., but it's not yet here (I'm in Japan, dewspite the email address). Anybody know which computer manufacturers will be first to market with 16-bit SCSI? We're building a device with a need for speed (to quote Tom Cruise). Speaking of making sense, am I making any? --Rod
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Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!usc!isi.edu!rod From: rod@isi.edu (Rodney Doyle Van Meter III) Newsgroups: comp.arch.storage Subject: Re: SCSI (was Re: IPI-2 questions) Message-ID: <22040@venera.isi.edu> Date: 27 Jul 92 07:16:59 GMT References: <22020@venera.isi.edu> <AJC.92Jul24120000@thendara.pa.dec.com> <nodq9mk@zuni.esd.sgi.com> <Brzs2r.23I@exnet.co.uk> <nq94gok@zuni.esd.sgi.com> Reply-To: rod@venera.isi.edu (Rodney Doyle Van Meter III) Organization: Information Sciences Institute, Univ. of So. California Lines: 36