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Article #553Re: Need help and advice with complex Dual RAID (SCSI/IDE) System
From: jmw
Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 14:07
Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 14:07
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From the tone of your submission you could just use your ego is sufficiently that you really don't need backup. I doubt very much if anyone gives a sweet rat's ass whether or not you're a dealer OEM or Santa Claus. If you've got so much money maybe you send a few $$ to the Red Cross in NYC to help out the poor bastards down there. If I were you I'd go out and get a big bottle of humble pills and start taking them religiously; you really do need to cure your problem before it spreads. "GoldNKid" <goldnkid@hydrosoft.net> wrote in message news:fb0a8a81.0109112042.26ceaae8@posting.google.com... > Greetings all! > > > > I've been a lurker on USENET for a couple of years now (or close) and > I value the opinion of a great many that post here. I'm getting ready > to rape and pillage my system and do a serious upgrade. The first > flame I'm going to get if is people are going to tell me to wait for > Northwood - don't. I'm a Microsoft OEM and am a partner in a local > computer consulting company so when the Northwood comes out, and drops > in price, it'l get rip out the P4T and 1.8 and sell it to a client as > a demo model. > > > > Here are the proposed specs of the new monster: > > > > Asus P4T Motherboard > > 512 Meg Kingston PC800 RDRAM > > Intel P4 1.8 ghz Retail > > Enermax EG651P-VE 650 Watt Power Supply > > Existing Supermicro 750 Server Case > > Gainward Geforce 3 Golden Sample Powerpack Vivo > > SB Live v5.1 OEM > > Adaptec 39160 U160 Dual Channel SCSI Adadpter (Already own it) > > 4 Seagate ST318436LW U160 SCSI HD (I've already got two - running off > of channel A of 39160) > > Plextor UltraPlex Wide (Own it and running it off of channel B of the > 39160) > > Plextor 24/10/40 (Own it and running off of Primary Master) > > 3Com 3c-905-TX 10/100 Nic (Already got it) > > DirecPC Satellite PCI Modem (Already got it) > > Mylex ACCELERAID 170 U160 SCSI RAID 32MB > > Microsoft Windows XP Final as and OS (As an OEM I have mine already) > > > > I realize I may have to sacrifice my NIC as the P4T only supports 5 > PCI slots. I only use it once a month when I bring my laptop home from > work to transfer filles. It would be just as easy to buy a USB based > NIC to do those small transfers and burn everything large at work on > CD to bring home (which is what I do most of time now anyway). > > > > My initial thought was to stripe the 4 Seagates and utilize that as my > boot and data drive. I need the speed for two reasons: 1: I'm an > impatient bastard and 2: I produce music and my system bogs down when > I've got 60 or seventy samples running at the same time. Games scream > off of those drives too. I also dabble in video owrk and the faster > the drive the less time I have to wait for conversions, encodes and > decodes. > > > > Then I realized I really need a backup system fot the 50+ growing gig > of audio and video work I've done (not to mention the enevitable MP3 > collection). Right now I boot off of my SCSI drives and use a 60 gig > 75GXP (selling it) for storage and "backup" but I know if that drives > fails I'm pooched. I need a hgih speed backup option and am unwilling > to spend the money on a DLT - plus I'd like to store my Outlook, > Quicken, Favorites, and other such data on a drive that has redundancy > and I don't want to slow down the 4 drives by putting the overhead of > RAID 5 on it If it's my boot drive and audio and video processing > platform. My solution was to purchase 4 7200rpm Seagate Barracuda > ST380021a 80 Gig drives and an ATA100 based (Adaptec 2400A) RAID board > setup with RAID 5 for redundancy. Veritas Backup v8.6 was then my > choice to backup disk to disk. > > > > After reviewing the prices on equipment I started to have some doubts > as to whether or not I was making the right decision. For the price of > the Barracudas and 2400A I could buy a couple of Seagate ST336752LW > 15k rpm drives for a couple of hundred dollars less. My question > (after all this [grin]) is can I hook those up to the Mylex and run > them in RAID 0 and take the remaining 4 18 gig Seagate drives and run > them in RAID 5 for redundancy. Antoher question is has anybody had any > luck in using Ghost Enterprise v7.0 to make images from a Mylex board? > > > > Abviously performance is a major factor to me, but losing data, > reliability, and compatibility are also major concerns. I use all > manner of audio software, and like to play a game here and there, and > want to make sure I'm designing a system that will give me the best of > all worlds. Money isn't (much) of a concern because I'm a dealer and > can get the equipment at cost so I'm really interested in the best > possible solution as long as reliability, performance, and redundancy > are taken care of. > > > > I've built hundreds of servers but have never tried to do what I'm now > thinking about attempting. Anyone running IDE and SCSI RAID in the > same system? Overall I think I'm most interested in using the 15k > drives if I can run them in RAID 0 on the same card I'm running RAID 5 > with my 18 gig drives. I'm pretty sure this can be done, but have > never tried it. Admittedly I'm going to end up buying another 18 gig > drive soon for storage as I'm already close the the 57 gig or so I'll > get running the 4 18's in RAID five. If I went that route I may just > buy the extra drive up front. > > > > I see pros and cons both ways - introducing a second RAID adapter > would allow me more flexibility with transfer speeds between the two > logical drives which would be nice. Overall, what method is going to > give me the fastest boot time and allow me to utilitze the most tracks > of samples in my audio work? Anyone want to venture an opinion? > > > > You guys always seem to like a challange. Here's a good one for you > because without benchmarks I can't make the decision and aIslo can't > make on eo ntheory alone. Perhaps you guys can. Let's see one of those > 80 posts thread with everyone's opinions - any real world experience > would also be helpful! Anybody that has any advice or can help me out > I would be most appreciative and be glad to post benchmarks on the > system once it's built. I cross posted in several places so if you > could email me and let me know you'e replied I'll be sure to check the > answer. Thanks in advance for your help! > > > > GoldNKid
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: f6def,c83ba0b9a700b1b5 X-Google-Attributes: gidf6def,public X-Google-Thread: fbad3,c83ba0b9a700b1b5 X-Google-Attributes: gidfbad3,public X-Google-Thread: 10a2ed,c83ba0b9a700b1b5 X-Google-Attributes: gid10a2ed,public X-Google-Thread: 10e1c8,c83ba0b9a700b1b5 X-Google-Attributes: gid10e1c8,public X-Google-Thread: f70d1,c83ba0b9a700b1b5 X-Google-Attributes: gidf70d1,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2001-09-18 07:10:02 PST Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!archiver1.google.com!newsfeed.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!bloom-beacon.mit.edu!nycmny1-snh1.gtei.net!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.gtei.net!nf3.bellglobal.com!news.uunet.ca!nntp.igs.net!news.igs.net!not-for-mail From: "jmw" <vwren@ptbo.igs.net> Newsgroups: comp.arch.storage,comp.periphs.scsi,alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt,it.comp.hardware.overclock,alt.comp.hardware.homebuilt Subject: Re: Need help and advice with complex Dual RAID (SCSI/IDE) System Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 10:07:18 -0400 Organization: IGS - Information Gateway Services Lines: 156 Message-ID: <9o7kf9$hhu$1@news.igs.net> References: <fb0a8a81.0109112042.26ceaae8@posting.google.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ttya14.ptbo.igs.net X-Trace: news.igs.net 1000822057 17982 216.58.120.36 (18 Sep 2001 14:07:37 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@igs.net NNTP-Posting-Date: 18 Sep 2001 14:07:37 GMT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200