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Article #560Need help and advice with complex Dual RAID (SCSI/IDE) System
From: GoldNKid
Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 04:42
Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 04:42
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Greetings all! I've been a lurker on USENET for a couple of years now (or close) and I value the opinion of a great many that post here. I'm getting ready to rape and pillage my system and do a serious upgrade. The first flame I'm going to get if is people are going to tell me to wait for Northwood - don't. I'm a Microsoft OEM and am a partner in a local computer consulting company so when the Northwood comes out, and drops in price, it'l get rip out the P4T and 1.8 and sell it to a client as a demo model. Here are the proposed specs of the new monster: Asus P4T Motherboard 512 Meg Kingston PC800 RDRAM Intel P4 1.8 ghz Retail Enermax EG651P-VE 650 Watt Power Supply Existing Supermicro 750 Server Case Gainward Geforce 3 Golden Sample Powerpack Vivo SB Live v5.1 OEM Adaptec 39160 U160 Dual Channel SCSI Adadpter (Already own it) 4 Seagate ST318436LW U160 SCSI HD (I've already got two - running off of channel A of 39160) Plextor UltraPlex Wide (Own it and running it off of channel B of the 39160) Plextor 24/10/40 (Own it and running off of Primary Master) 3Com 3c-905-TX 10/100 Nic (Already got it) DirecPC Satellite PCI Modem (Already got it) Mylex ACCELERAID 170 U160 SCSI RAID 32MB Microsoft Windows XP Final as and OS (As an OEM I have mine already) I realize I may have to sacrifice my NIC as the P4T only supports 5 PCI slots. I only use it once a month when I bring my laptop home from work to transfer filles. It would be just as easy to buy a USB based NIC to do those small transfers and burn everything large at work on CD to bring home (which is what I do most of time now anyway). My initial thought was to stripe the 4 Seagates and utilize that as my boot and data drive. I need the speed for two reasons: 1: I'm an impatient bastard and 2: I produce music and my system bogs down when I've got 60 or seventy samples running at the same time. Games scream off of those drives too. I also dabble in video owrk and the faster the drive the less time I have to wait for conversions, encodes and decodes. Then I realized I really need a backup system fot the 50+ growing gig of audio and video work I've done (not to mention the enevitable MP3 collection). Right now I boot off of my SCSI drives and use a 60 gig 75GXP (selling it) for storage and "backup" but I know if that drives fails I'm pooched. I need a hgih speed backup option and am unwilling to spend the money on a DLT - plus I'd like to store my Outlook, Quicken, Favorites, and other such data on a drive that has redundancy and I don't want to slow down the 4 drives by putting the overhead of RAID 5 on it If it's my boot drive and audio and video processing platform. My solution was to purchase 4 7200rpm Seagate Barracuda ST380021a 80 Gig drives and an ATA100 based (Adaptec 2400A) RAID board setup with RAID 5 for redundancy. Veritas Backup v8.6 was then my choice to backup disk to disk. After reviewing the prices on equipment I started to have some doubts as to whether or not I was making the right decision. For the price of the Barracudas and 2400A I could buy a couple of Seagate ST336752LW 15k rpm drives for a couple of hundred dollars less. My question (after all this [grin]) is can I hook those up to the Mylex and run them in RAID 0 and take the remaining 4 18 gig Seagate drives and run them in RAID 5 for redundancy. Antoher question is has anybody had any luck in using Ghost Enterprise v7.0 to make images from a Mylex board? Abviously performance is a major factor to me, but losing data, reliability, and compatibility are also major concerns. I use all manner of audio software, and like to play a game here and there, and want to make sure I'm designing a system that will give me the best of all worlds. Money isn't (much) of a concern because I'm a dealer and can get the equipment at cost so I'm really interested in the best possible solution as long as reliability, performance, and redundancy are taken care of. I've built hundreds of servers but have never tried to do what I'm now thinking about attempting. Anyone running IDE and SCSI RAID in the same system? Overall I think I'm most interested in using the 15k drives if I can run them in RAID 0 on the same card I'm running RAID 5 with my 18 gig drives. I'm pretty sure this can be done, but have never tried it. Admittedly I'm going to end up buying another 18 gig drive soon for storage as I'm already close the the 57 gig or so I'll get running the 4 18's in RAID five. If I went that route I may just buy the extra drive up front. I see pros and cons both ways - introducing a second RAID adapter would allow me more flexibility with transfer speeds between the two logical drives which would be nice. Overall, what method is going to give me the fastest boot time and allow me to utilitze the most tracks of samples in my audio work? Anyone want to venture an opinion? You guys always seem to like a challange. Here's a good one for you because without benchmarks I can't make the decision and aIslo can't make on eo ntheory alone. Perhaps you guys can. Let's see one of those 80 posts thread with everyone's opinions - any real world experience would also be helpful! Anybody that has any advice or can help me out I would be most appreciative and be glad to post benchmarks on the system once it's built. I cross posted in several places so if you could email me and let me know you'e replied I'll be sure to check the answer. Thanks in advance for your help! GoldNKid
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