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Re: Wet Dream or ...

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From: Karl Denninger
Date: Sun, 21 Apr 1991 14:10
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In article <1991Apr19.235445.1831@iitmax.iit.edu> wallace@iitmax.iit.edu (Wallace) writes:
>In article <1991Apr12.151301.27159@pcserver2.naitc.com> kdenning@pcserver2.naitc.com (Karl Denninger) writes:
>>In article <1991Apr11.184136.10324@news.iastate.edu> john@iastate.edu (Hascall John Paul) writes:
>>>In article <13964@adobe.UUCP> lemery@adobe.COM () writes:
>>>}A couple of days ago, a consortium of companies (Microsoft, MIPS,
>>>}DEC, SCO, and others) announced they would be supporting a new
>>>}standard high performance PC/workstation to compete against the
>>I have reasonably reliable information that SCO Unix will be dead as of
>>December of this year.  It's being replaced.
>>
>>The replacement?  OSF/1!  
>>
>>I have always hated SCO's 3.2 implementation.  OSF/1, on the other hand,
>>looks like a dream to me.  A darn good dream.
>Karl! You can't be serious. You want another alpha piece of
>software, full of bugs and incompatiable with all you have!
>Maybe in a few years OSF will be OK.

At least it will be a common set of bugs.

Right now I have to contend with bugs in Sun, MIPS, IBM (RS/6000 and PS/2
AIX) and ISC (80386).  There is no common set of anything.  Each supports 
things in a different way, with lots of differences in implementation and 
sets of problems.  

Sun, for example, seems to be unable to produce a working rpc.lockd.  MIPS
just did the same basic thing with Risc/OS 4.52; 4.51's rpc.lockd worked
fine - until we upgraded the Suns to 4.1.1.  IBM can't make it work at all 
with the current AIX release on the RS/6000.

I won't even talk about the problems with ISC's network implementations
(sockets dying, etc).

The other item to remember is that OSF/1 source code can be purchased for
less than the cost of a small bank.  It will be applicable across platforms
as well (at least to a large extent); something I don't have today with the
many versions of "Unix" out there.  Today, I have to buy an AT&T license, a
SunOS license, a RISC/OS license, and an AIX source license -- IF I can get
all those companies to sell my one at any price!

Sure, OSF/1 may be "betaware" when it's released, but I will be able 
to fix the bugs myself -- something I can't do today with the 
multi-vendor/multi-implementation nightmare that we have right now.

I believe the commonality is a good thing for all involved.

--
Karl Denninger - AC Nielsen, Bannockburn IL (708) 317-3285
kdenning@nis.naitc.com

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From: kdenning@pcserver2.naitc.com (Karl Denninger)
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Subject: Re: Wet Dream or ...
Summary: Alpha software?  At least it's CONSISTANT Alpha software...
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Date: 21 Apr 91 14:10:51 GMT
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