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In <id.OG2W.USA@ferranti.com> peter@ferranti.com writes:

> In article <1992Dec22.142358.188@indyvax.iupui.edu> imhw400@indyvax.iupui.edu writes:
> > > 	pipes
> > got it
> 
> $ DIR | SORT
> %DCL-W-MAXPARM, too many parameters - reenter command with fewer parameters
> 

If you have the bucks you can purchase the POSIX shell for VMS.  It is
dog slow but works.  Of course if you are talking about an Alpha AXP box, who
cares??  Otherwise there are pipe packages available via anonymous FTP.

$ posix
psx> dcl directory/date/size | sort
sort: [standard input]: line 15: no newline at end of file




Directory DUA1:[T]
EXTRACT.BIN;1             7  17-NOV-1992 12:29:11.39
LIBRARY.BIN;68           49  23-DEC-1992 11:49:52.06
NOMENU.BIN;63            16  23-DEC-1992 11:51:53.51
PHOTO.LOG;1               0  23-DEC-1992 15:11:59.62
REPORTER.BIN;69          30  23-DEC-1992 11:50:38.25
SAVE.BIN;59              30  23-DEC-1992 11:46:50.42
SPANISH.BIN;2            59  22-FEB-1991 13:24:19.34
SYSTEM.BIN;3             57  23-DEC-1992 11:48:47.64
TTY.BIN;61               28  23-DEC-1992 11:51:16.64
Total of 9 files, 276 blocks.

> > > 	make
> > got it
> 
> When did that show up. I once spent a week writing make for VMS because it
> wasn't there.

Version 5.5.  Get the POSIX shell.  It has a good make.  Otherwise there are 
numerous *decent* makes available via anon ftp.

> > > 	choice of shells
> > got it
> 
> Damn, can't seem to find any but DCL.
> 

Get the POSIX shell.  I know, I know, "why should I have to pay extra???"  
It is available though at a modest cost.  (i.e. $185 for a MicroVAX II).

> > > 	machine independant, choice of vendor freedom
> > VMS runs on two architectures now, maybe more later
> 
> Doesn't run on my PC.

But it will run on a PC, may not be yours though.  DEC is working on the 
drivers to bring it down to the Alpha PC level.

> > > 	simplicity
> > got it
> 
> OK, quick, without looking it up. Is it
> 
> 	delete queue/entry=
> or
> 	delete entry/queue=

I avoid this by doing the following:

	$ delete/entry=???

The queue manager assigns unique entry numbers so it doesn't have to worry
about target queue anymore.  

You seem to be stuck at a prior version of VMS.  Like any robust operating 
system VMS has added new features, including the availability of a POSIX 
(kshell) shell at VMS 5.5.

Peter, since you now have to support a VMS machine(s) you aren't trying to 
learn VMS tricks/techniques by critiqueing it are you?

				Rob


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