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Article #11082Re: COMPAQ PROPOSED SCALABLE I/O ARCHITECTURE
From: Chris Simonich
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 16:00
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 16:00
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In article <1992Dec15.205639.25591@super.org> rminnich@super.org (Ronald G Minnich) writes: > >Actually, seems to me they could look at SCI. Except they want low cost. >But if the CMOS chips for SCI pan out, maybe they will meet the cost >range. We have received this response from several people. We disagree. For one SCI had a physical topology (a ring) that is not suitable for expansion I/O. Yes, we know you can run the ring to and from the same board and create a topology that looks like the Anet (Compaq Proposal) topology but then you begin to loose much of the cost advantages. We took a long look at SCI before we created our proposal. We ran into lots of problems trying to allow different speed rings to work together and the biggest problem was that we didn't like having to have bi-polar transceivers. When we started to recast the thing for CMOS implementation we ran into protocol inefficiencies and, well, it just didn't seem to work out the way we need it to. The major thing turned out to be that SCI and the Compaq proposal (we call it Anet around here) were trying to solve different problems with cost, not bandwidth, being the major one. The fact that the 'C' in SCI stands for coherent I think brings out one of the differences in approach. We needed an I/O interface and coherency in the I/O subsystem was something that we were trying to eliminate. The address bandwidth required to maintain coherency in the I/O subsystem is prohibitive. Don't get me wrong, we think that from a technical point of view SCI is neat. It just seems to be intended for a different part of the system architecture. We would welcome any comments you have to the contrary. When/if you respond, tell us how we can make an SCI, I/O subsystem as cheap as an Anet, I/O subsystem. -- ====================================================== Christopher Simonich simonich@twisto.compaq.com Compaq Computer Corp. [713] 374-1898 ======================================================
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Newsgroups: comp.arch Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!cs.utexas.edu!wotan.compaq.com!twisto.eng.hou.compaq.com!croatia.eng.hou.compaq.com!simonich From: simonich@croatia.eng.hou.compaq.com (Chris Simonich) Subject: Re: COMPAQ PROPOSED SCALABLE I/O ARCHITECTURE Message-ID: <1992Dec16.160054.2486@twisto.eng.hou.compaq.com> Sender: news@twisto.eng.hou.compaq.com (Netnews Account) Organization: Compaq Computer Corp. References: <1992Dec15.171554.2781@twisto.eng.hou.compaq.com> <1992Dec15.194637.10009@eng.umd.edu> <1992Dec15.205639.25591@super.org> Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 16:00:54 GMT Lines: 39