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Article #11209Re: Any new instructions in a i486?
From: Piercarlo Grandi
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 16:22
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 16:22
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On 13 Dec 92 05:00:19 GMT, johnl@iecc.cambridge.ma.us (John R. Levine) said: (somebody)> NeXTStep is said to not run on the Cyrix 486 chips because (somebody)> "they are not real 486's". No one has come up with a (somebody)> reliable reason _why_ NeXT doesn't think they are "real (somebody)> 486's" or why NeXTStep won't run on them. The most probable reason seen so far is that there are some small supervisor state differences between the Cyrix and the Intel part. If so, I would venture that it is about enabling (and then flushing at the right moment) the cache on the Cyrix. It is not necessary to do so, but if one does not (and one has to do so on most old 386-like motherboards on which the Cyrix part is usually mounted) then performance is little better than with a 386. johnl> I don't have any real data, but I expect the problem is that the johnl> Cyrix chip doesn't have a floating point unit. No, this cannot be the reason. As a rule the Cyrix 486DLC CPU chip is sold with the Cyrix Fasmath (a 387) coprocessor, the combo being touted quite reasonably as a 486DX equivalent. Moreover NeXTStep is said to run on the 486SX Intel chips, and those don't have a corprocessor either. FUD, FUD. Ah Intel, Intel. :-) -- Piercarlo Grandi, Dept of CS, PC/UW@Aberystwyth <pcg@aber.ac.uk> E l'italiano cantava, cantava. E le sue disperate invocazioni giunsero alle orecchie del suo divino protettore, il dio della barzelletta
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Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!haven.umd.edu!darwin.sura.net!tulane!spool.mu.edu!agate!doc.ic.ac.uk!uknet!gdt!aber!fronta.aber.ac.uk!pcg From: pcg@aber.ac.uk (Piercarlo Grandi) Newsgroups: comp.arch Subject: Re: Any new instructions in a i486? Message-ID: <PCG.92Dec19162224@decb.aber.ac.uk> Date: 19 Dec 92 16:22:24 GMT References: <WAYNE.92Dec11164422@backbone.uucp> <9212130000.AA05447@iecc.cambridge.ma.us> Sender: news@aber.ac.uk (USENET news service) Reply-To: pcg@aber.ac.uk (Piercarlo Grandi) Organization: Prifysgol Cymru, Aberystwyth Lines: 30 In-Reply-To: johnl@iecc.cambridge.ma.us's message of 13 Dec 92 05: 00:19 GMT Nntp-Posting-Host: decb.aber.ac.uk