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Article #11276Re: DEC Alpha AXP System Performance
From: Kent Wilken
Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1992 20:33
Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1992 20:33
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In article <BxL3IH.KtH.2@cs.cmu.edu> lindsay+@cs.cmu.edu (Donald Lindsay) writes: >In article <15445@auspex-gw.auspex.com> guy@Auspex.COM (Guy Harris) writes: >>Hmm. As I remember, somebody from DEC at a session on topics such as >>OSF/1-on-MIPS on Tuesday night at the San Antonio USENIX claimed that >>HP-PA was "out of gas"; ... > ... > >What he may have meant, is that HP won't be able to use offchip >primary cache much longer. That was difficult at 66 MHz, and is >really impressive at 100 MHz. Even HP can't do it at 200 MHz, surely. <--- > ... > >Don D.C.Lindsay Carnegie Mellon Computer Science A person from HP previously addressed your incredulity regarding the feasibility of 200MHz off-chip caches: #From: linley@hpcuhe.cup.hp.com (Linley Gwennap) #Newsgroups: comp.arch #Subject: Re: Re: Offchip Primary Cache #Message-ID: <32580093@hpcuhe.cup.hp.com# #Date: 5 Mar 92 21:46:37 GMT #References: <1992Mar03.233219.176162@cs.cmu.edu# #Organization: Hewlett Packard, Cupertino # #(Donald Lindsay) discusses HP cache access rates: #> I'm impressed that HP can do it at 100 MHz. Can you do it at 200 MHz? # #There is no reason to believe that 200 MHz will not be possible. 100 MHz #primary caches on the PA7100 are accomplished with standard PCB technology, #ceramic PGA packaging, and off-the-shelf 9ns TTL I/O SRAMs. SRAMs get #faster every year, multichip modules are getting cheaper, ECL I/O circuits #are well understood, future VLSI technologies will improve timing #overhead, etc, etc. Two years ago these same discussions were taking place #about whether external primary caches could ever run at 50 MHz. # #Some of the work going on to define new high-speed I/O protocol standards #for DRAM and SRAM memory devices also look interesting for application #in future cache memory designs. #
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Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!wupost!csus.edu!ucdavis!endive.eecs.ucdavis.edu!wilken From: wilken@endive.eecs.ucdavis.edu (Kent Wilken) Newsgroups: comp.arch Subject: Re: DEC Alpha AXP System Performance Message-ID: <19225@ucdavis.ucdavis.edu> Date: 14 Nov 92 20:33:30 GMT References: <BxIM38.L9F.2@cs.cmu.edu> <15445@auspex-gw.auspex.com> <BxL3IH.KtH.2@cs.cmu.edu> Sender: usenet@ucdavis.ucdavis.edu Organization: U.C. Davis - Department of Electrical Engineering and Computer Science Lines: 42