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Article #11582Re: Can old architectures run fast?
From: Henry A Worth
Date: Wed, 15 May 1991 02:36
Date: Wed, 15 May 1991 02:36
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In article <1991May9.144406.20558@vlsi.waterloo.edu> ward@vlsi.waterloo.edu (Paul Ward) writes:
>In article <c506634.3284@umcvmb.missouri.edu>
> c506634@umcvmb.missouri.edu (Eric Edwards) writes:
>
>>Also, is there anything to prohibit a RISC based machine from having a high
>>speed IO subsystem? Would adding this make the machine cost as much as a
>>3090?
The HIPPI? interface with RAID (Redundant Arrays of Inexpensive Disks)
disk systems is one possible solution.
>
>I don't know, but it is an interesting question. Do you have $20,000,000 ?
>We can try a little experiment. :-)
>
So, you want to build a mainframe-class RISC system. Well, to compete
with recently announced high-end CISC products from IBM, Amdahl, et. al.,
your going to need at least:
4-8 CPU's with 50+ honest MIPS - none of those inflated marketing
RISC mips.
~1GB of fast static RAM - can't let those CPU's wait on paging,
or have to twiddle their thumbs for too long after cache hits.
A couple of hundred SCSI controllers - for that 10 million dollar
disk farm in your garage.
The capability for a like number of FDDI controllers - to keep up
with the latest net-news.
Several additional processors to help manage the I/O, encrypion/
decryption, ...
Perhaps a few GB of dynamic RAM for disk caching, SSD and such.
The busses and logic to make all this work...
Features to ensure high availability...
Oh, and don't forget a 100kw power source and cooling system.
Now, if your a bit shy of the 100's of millions of dollars it would
take to develop such a system -- several vendors (including Amdahl)
have announced that they are working on "RISC-based" mainframes (I believe
a few low-end systems have already been announced or are even avaliable from a
couple of the Japanese mainframe producers) -- just wait until they become
commodity items, and buy off the shelf. :-)
--
Henry Worth -- haw30@duts.ccc.amdahl.com
No, I don't speak for Amdahl -- I'm not even sure I speak for myself.
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