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Re: Anything wrong with the i860

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From: Eugene D. Brooks III
Date: Fri, 17 May 1991 05:33
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In article <1991May16.221437.10751@rice.edu> preston@ariel.rice.edu (Preston Briggs) writes:
>The i860 can smoke a Sparc, but it takes a smart (mostly non-existant)
>compiler and the right applications.  A man at Alliant charactarized
>the 860 as having a small "sweet spot".
The "sweet spot" of the i860, 4 K bytes, is indeed very small.
That the chip is so difficult to compile for indicates a poorly designed architecture.

The "sweet spot" of several more recently available micros, IBM's and HP's, is
much larger with data caches of 128 K bytes.  Sweet spots which are 32 times
larger are definitely better.

The "sweet spot" of a true supercomputer ranges in the hundreds of megawords.
Sweet spots which are more than a thousand times larger are better,
but not always a thousand times better.

It is clear that the fundamental problem with leading edge micros today is
when they miss their sweet spot they go hungry.  In time, micro vendors
and memory chip vendors will get together and provide DRAM chips with
the internal latches required to interleave memory on a chip.  Then the
micro's sweet spot will in the same size class as that of a supercomputer
and the conventional supercomputer will move on to complete extinction.

By then, the i860 and all the other micros lacking some form of explicit
vector functionality to saturate the available memory bandwidth will be
fodder for lawn sprinkler controllers.
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