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Article #12505Re: Comparison of Alpha, MIPS and PA-RISC-II wanted
From: Michael A. Thomas
Date: Fri, 08 Jan 1993 22:34
Date: Fri, 08 Jan 1993 22:34
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Ooops, looks like my little rant was misdirected. I of course was talking about the VMS VAXCRTL. One can only hope that the C RTL for Alpha/VMS was not a direct port... In article <1993Jan8.222519.6703@gordian.com>, mike@gordian.com (Michael A. Thomas) writes: > In article <C0K3HC.A8B@dscomsa.desy.de>, hallam@zeus02.desy.de (Phill Hallam-Baker) writes: > > In article <3623363@zl2tnm.gen.nz>, don@zl2tnm.gen.nz (Don Stokes) writes: > > |>I personally believe VAXCRTL is a serious impediment to DEC's claims of > > |>"openness" in VMS. Life's too short to have to go re-implementing half > > |>the RTL whenever you try to get anything done because the standard stuff > > |>is too slow, too buggy or more often than not, both. > > > > Has anyone any idea what the DECC RTL is like? Has anyone tried it on a VAX? (is > > it avaliable for VAX??) Comparing DECC on Alpha to VAXC is not really on... > > anything running on the alpha tends to look fast. > > Yes. The previous author is 100% correct IMHO. I basically gave up > on them ever getting the standard library routines (such as read(2) and > write(2)) being anything other than disgustingly slow (on the order > of 10-100 times slower then using RMS directly). Worse, it could > easily write files than *nothing* else could read. That and the early > coverage of library routines was pretty grim. And another thing is > that the damn linker isn't case specific which breaks a lot of ports. > What is worst part of this entire brain dead situation is that there > is *no* reason for it. > Don't get me started on this... -- Michael Thomas (mike@gordian.com) "I don't think Bambi Eyes will get you that flame thrower..." -- Hobbes to Calvin USnail: 20361 Irvine Ave Santa Ana Heights, Ca, 92707-5637 PaBell: (714) 850-0205 (714) 850-0533 (fax)
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Newsgroups: comp.arch,comp.sys.dec,comp.sys.sgi,comp.sys.hp Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!rpi!usc!news.service.uci.edu!gordius!gordius!mike From: mike@gordian.com (Michael A. Thomas) Subject: Re: Comparison of Alpha, MIPS and PA-RISC-II wanted Message-ID: <1993Jan8.223447.6924@gordian.com> Sender: news@gordian.com Organization: Gordian; Costa Mesa, CA References: <1992Dec29.044012.1@cc.curtin.edu.au> <3623363@zl2tnm.gen.nz> <C0K3HC.A8B@dscomsa.desy.de> <1993Jan8.222519.6703@gordian.com> Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 22:34:47 GMT Lines: 33