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Article #12623Re: Is 64 bits enough address space?
From: Tony Hawkins
Date: Mon, 09 Oct 1995 13:25
Date: Mon, 09 Oct 1995 13:25
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Gertjan Klein (gklein@xs4all.nl) wrote: > msmith@jolt.mpx.com.au (Michael Smith) wrote: > > Very few people (who I know anyway) buy 64 bit machines to address more > > than 4GB of memory. They do it to get faster throughput. The extra > > address space is simply a side-effect. While increasing your bus from 32 > > to 64 bits may increase your address space by an enormous amount, it only > > increases the throughput by a factor of 2. I can easily imagine users > > (in the next few years) wanting 128 bit graphics cards, disk controllers > > and network interface cards and thus wanting a 128 bit bus. > You seem to be confusing the address bus with the data bus. An > _address_ bus of 64 bits does not increase throughput at all. I can > think of no compelling reason for a 64-bit address bus, but I may feel > differently in a few years. A 64-bit _data_ bus, on the other hand, > _does_ double the throughput when compared to a 32-bit bus. This is > exacly why a Pentium, for example, has a 64-bit external data bus, > even though it has only 32-bit registers. (Note that here the address > bus and the data bus have different size). > I guess that what all this proves is that the phrase "64-bit > machine" is nonsensical. 64-Bit by what definition? External or > internal bus, data or address, register size? Without this > information, "64-bit machine" tells you _nothing_. > Gertjan. > -- > Gertjan Klein <gklein@xs4all.nl> I think the original assumption was: data bus size = register size = address size Of course this isn't always true --- but its not a bad assumption, for arguments sake! -Tony hawkins@sdt.com
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Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!aadt.sdt.com!hawkins From: hawkins@PROBLEM_WITH_INEWS_GATEWAY_FILE (Tony Hawkins) Newsgroups: comp.arch,comp.lang.c Subject: Re: Is 64 bits enough address space? Followup-To: comp.arch,comp.lang.c Date: 9 Oct 1995 13:25:08 GMT Organization: SABRE Decision Technologies Message-ID: <45b7rk$qt4@aadt.sdt.com> References: <44sl81$hr1@murrow.corp.sgi.com> <44u6al$ml8@m1.cs.man.ac.uk> <458mrk$enl@inferno.mpx.com.au> <459kbl$qor@news.xs4all.nl> NNTP-Posting-Host: 144.9.233.182 X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL1]