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Article #13233Re: Hypercubes (place in life)
From: Eugene Miya N.
Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1987 19:28
Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1987 19:28
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In article <1150@encore.UUCP> fay@encore.UUCP (Peter Fay) writes:
>In article <3810018@nucsrl.UUCP> ram@nucsrl.UUCP (Raman Renu) writes:
>>
>> Fay wrote:
>>
>>>The cost benefits are incredible when one realizes that these programs
>>>actually get better turn-around time on a $12,000 hypercube than a
>> ^
>> +- where did a '0' go.
>
>I wasn't refering to Intel's hypercube.
I thought you were refering to a 4 node cube. In fact I saw John
Palmer's 4 node system when he brought it last year to COMPCON.
Speedups of 4 over micro processors, even 16 over micros are dumb. You
want speed ups of hundreds of times to compete with larger mainframes
class CPUs which have much faster busses for I/O.
>My only 'real' comparison of cubes was at the ICPP conference
>last summer, viewing both the Intel and Ncube running the same
>Mandelbrot program (what else? ). The Ncube was (very roughly) ten times
>faster. The Intel people explained this by saying their machine was
>still 'experimental', while Ncube's was a commercial product.
>
>Maybe that's why Ncube's is being used in commercial applications.
> - peter fay
What "commercial" application is running on a Cube? Any? I am under the
send mail when answering this, don't clutter the net
impression (from the Cube conferences) that we are all dealing with
reduced (read toy) problems. I don't know of a scientist anywhere
running "production code," including Caltech. Code development sure and
other experiments. That's quite an investment of a scientists time
to write something which does not have a guarantee that a line of
machines is going to continue (like writing HEP applications).
From the Rock of Ages Home for Retired Hackers:
--eugene miya
NASA Ames Research Center
eugene@ames-aurora.ARPA
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Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!utzoo!mnetor!seismo!rutgers!ames!pioneer!eugene From: eugene@pioneer.arpa (Eugene Miya N.) Newsgroups: comp.arch Subject: Re: Hypercubes (place in life) Message-ID: <816@ames.UUCP> Date: Wed, 18-Mar-87 14:28:55 EST Article-I.D.: ames.816 Posted: Wed Mar 18 14:28:55 1987 Date-Received: Fri, 20-Mar-87 01:21:16 EST References: <362@ames.UUCP> <3810018@nucsrl.UUCP> <1150@encore.UUCP> Sender: usenet@ames.UUCP Reply-To: eugene@pioneer.UUCP (Eugene Miya N.) Organization: NASA Ames Research Center, Moffett Field, Calif. Lines: 44