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Article #13409Re: new Gould NPL; Whetstone MIPS (Back to 64 vs 32 bit)
From: eugene
Date: Mon, 06 Apr 1987 17:27
Date: Mon, 06 Apr 1987 17:27
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In article <332@elxsi.UUCP> sherm@elxsi.UUCP (Michael Sherman) writes:
>In article <255@winchester.mips.UUCP> mash@winchester.UUCP (John Mashey) writes:
>>What are Whetstone MIPS? ....
>> a) Are they DP MEgaWhetstones? (or SP?)
>> b) Are they X times a VAX 11/780, if so,
>> b1) VAX/VMS
>> b2) 4.3BSD?
>
>Sorry for not being more specific. The numbers I mentioned were single
>precision megaWhetstones. ELXSI's double precision numbers aren't much
>different since all registers are 64 bits.
>Michael Sherman
This brings up some things I have been thinking about regarding fair
comparisons. How would you compare apples and oranges? (retorically,
send mail, not follow ups, I am summarizing on this one).
How would you compare say a 32 bit to a 64 bit to a 36 bit
architecture? It's real easy to say, "If an application only needs
32-bit precision (or what ever architectural property, not just floating
point), then 64-bit (or whatever) is just icing on the cake." Is it
more fair to do as dongarra and just say "everything in 64-bit" which is
the numerical analysts solution (no one does serious floating point in
32-bit, you only get 3-4 base-10 digits): so a "standard" minimum
is one way. Another way seems to be normalization (I won't get into
this, it's the gold-plated VAX syndrome, and this is dumb [be glad these
people don't work for the NBS]). What other means of making things fair
can you see?
From the Rock of Ages Home for Retired Hackers:
--eugene miya
NASA Ames Research Center
eugene@ames-aurora.ARPA
"You trust the `reply' command with all those different mailers out there?"
"Send mail, avoid follow-ups. If enough, I'll summarize."
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Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!utzoo!utgpu!water!watnot!watmath!clyde!rutgers!lll-lcc!styx!ames!pioneer!eugene From: eugene@pioneer.UUCP Newsgroups: comp.arch Subject: Re: new Gould NPL; Whetstone MIPS (Back to 64 vs 32 bit) Message-ID: <1197@ames.UUCP> Date: Mon, 6-Apr-87 12:27:15 EST Article-I.D.: ames.1197 Posted: Mon Apr 6 12:27:15 1987 Date-Received: Tue, 7-Apr-87 05:41:38 EST References: <501@sw1e.UUCP> <1805@pyramid.UUCP> <326@elxsi.UUCP> <255@winchester.mips.UUCP> <332@elxsi.UUCP> Sender: usenet@ames.UUCP Reply-To: eugene@pioneer.UUCP (Eugene Miya N.) Organization: NASA Ames Research Center, Moffett Field, Calif. Lines: 36 Keywords: gould supermini, elxsi