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Virtual caches & PIDs [was Re: i860 CPU information]

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From: Tim Olson
Date: Thu, 16 Mar 1989 01:25
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In article <21795@shemp.CS.UCLA.EDU> loving@cs.ucla.edu (Mike Loving) writes:
| In article <15213@winchester.mips.COM> mash@mips.COM (John Mashey) writes:
| >As I posted in <15016@winchester>, you have to flush the caches
| >on context-switch in a single CPU, much less a multiprocessor.
| 
| 
| A popular misconception.  It is NOT necessary to flush the cache on a context
| switch.  If your cache is physically addressed and you do not include PIDs in
| the tags, then yes you do have to.  An example circumventing this is the new
| HP machines which use a virtually addressed (no address xlat delay) cache and
| do not flush the cache on context switches.

The context (no pun intended ;-) of John Mashey's posting was the i860,
which must have its caches flushed on context switches, even in
uniprocessor configurations.

I believe you have swapped the terms "physically" and "virtually" above
-- you need PIDs in *virtually* addressed caches to avoid address
aliasing problems.  This assumes that you have a write-through cache. 

Has anyone tried to use virtual, copy-back caches with PIDs to prevent
flushing like the i860 requires?  Problems of how to save modified data,
as well as the consistency of shared memory come to mind...

	-- Tim Olson
	Advanced Micro Devices
	(tim@amd.com)
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Subject: Virtual caches & PIDs [was Re: i860 CPU information]
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