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Article #21406Re: Criteria ... [really: are N des
From: aglew
Date: Sat, 20 May 1989 19:46
Date: Sat, 20 May 1989 19:46
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>/* Written 8:12 pm May 19, 1989 by khb%chiba@Sun.COM in mcdurb:comp.arch */
>In article <28200317@mcdurb> dfields@mcdurb.Urbana.Gould.COM writes:
>>
>
>>If a third party can't figure out how to make a simple benchmark
>>run fast on your system, how do you expect your customers to be able
>>port an aplication which takes advantage of your high performance system?
>>
>
>a) Who said anything about simple ?
>b) Those really interested in max performance are typically
> willing to go to some efforts. Consider your (albeit few) NP1/2
> users; all of Cray's; many of MIPS's etc.
>
>Complex systems (which includes many RISC set ups) require some
>complex usage.
(1) First off, to set things straight: Dave Fields, myself (Andy 'Krazy' Glew)
and a few others that you see on the net are now happy to be MOTOROLA
Microcomputer Division employees. Gould sold the Urbana Development
Center [*] to Motorola just before Nippon Mining bought Gould, just
before Nippon Mining sold Gould CSD to Encore, etc.
Our mail paths will appear as ...Gould.COM for a while, until
the various bureaucracies that control ARPAnet naming can digest us.
But, already, if your mailer supports MX records, you can address us
as *@urbana.mcd.mot.com.
(2) Fewer people than you think are interested in intensive performance
tuning. That was one of the things I learned at Gould, Cray is going
to learn from the Japanese supercomputer manufacturers, and something
that MIPS has already learned. Being willing to tune is one thing;
having to tune is another.
BTW, Keith, I'll be in your area next week. Got any glaciers to climb?
Andy "Krazy" Glew aglew@urbana.mcd.mot.com uunet!uiucdcs!mcdurb!aglew
Motorola Microcomputer Division, Champaign-Urbana Design Center
1101 E. University, Urbana, Illinois 61801, USA.
My opinions are my own, and are not the opinions of my employer, or
any other organisation. I indicate my company only so that the reader
may account for any possible bias I may have towards our products.
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Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!rutgers!deimos.cis.ksu.edu!uxc!uxc.cso.uiuc.edu!mcdurb!aglew From: aglew@mcdurb.Urbana.Gould.COM Newsgroups: comp.arch Subject: Re: Criteria ... [really: are N des Message-ID: <28200319@mcdurb> Date: 20 May 89 19:46:00 GMT References: <674@pitstop.West.Sun.COM> Lines: 44 Nf-ID: #R:pitstop.West.Sun.COM:674:mcdurb:28200319:000:2066 Nf-From: mcdurb.Urbana.Gould.COM!aglew May 20 14:46:00 1989