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Re: Register usage

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From: Lars J Poulsen
Date: Tue, 30 May 1989 20:49
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In article <25382@ames.arc.nasa.gov>
	   lamaster@ames.arc.nasa.gov (Hugh LaMaster) writes:
>>I agree that 256 registers were probably too many, because the compiler had
>>trouble using more than about 60 typically.

In article <m0fRx4x-0001fDC@mipon2.intel.com>
	   mcg@mipon2.UUCP (Steven McGeady) writes:
>This, IMHO, is one of the greatest flaws of the 29k - it exposes 192
>(actually 256) architectural registers.
>
>The 960, on the other hand, exposes 32 general registers architecturally,

From a humble applications programmer, who occasionally has written a bit
of kernel code: The biggest pain with an architecture that exposes too
large a register file is saving and restoring on context switches. While
interrupt service routines can ignore this and store only what they
need, context switches require storing of the entire register set. Or do
people really feel that the processors today are fast enough that
scheduling pre-emption is too rare to influence the selection of
register file size ?

Many years ago I switched from working on (then) Univac-1100 to PDP-11's
and VAXen; the 1100 had about 44 visible registers in the user set; few
programs really used more than half of them; worse yet, they were
asymmetric, with different properties between the three major groups.

The VAX instruction set got more mileage out of its 16 general registers
than the Univac got out of its 44, and saved many cycles on register
save/restores.

/ Lars Poulsen <lars@salt.acc.com>     (800) 222-7308  or (805) 963-9431 ext 358
  ACC Customer Service                Affiliation stated for identification only
                  My employer probably would not agree if he knew what I said !!
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From: lars@salt.acc.com (Lars J Poulsen)
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Subject: Re: Register usage
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Date: 30 May 89 20:49:07 GMT
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