Article View: comp.arch
Article #21529Re: Re: 80486 vs. 68040 code size [really: how many regs]
From: Jeff Aguilera
Date: Thu, 01 Jun 1989 19:29
Date: Thu, 01 Jun 1989 19:29
36 lines
2287 bytes
2287 bytes
> And then there are the sloppy programmers, the
> ones who assume (as you mention) that pointers and ints are the same size,
> or that ints are 32 bits, or that ints and longs are the same size and can
> be used interchangeably (this is depressingly common in the Unix world today,
> and last I looked, both Berkeley and AT&T were aiding and abetting this
> disgusting practice). Alas, one cannot just ignore the sloppy programmers;
> sometimes one wants to run code they wrote without having to clean it up.
> --
> Henry Spencer
> ----------
This is a problem with poor language design, not sloppy programming. C
provides no means for a programmer to express the intended range of an
integer. The X Window System, for example, defines many integer subtypes:
INT16, INT32, UINT16, etc. The short-int-long difficulties are isolated with
typedefs, but problems still linger. 36-bit architectures, for instance, are
a major headache. On page 182 of the first edition of "The C Programming
Language," Kernighan and Ritchie summarize the characteristics of several
implementations of C:
DEC PDP-11 Honeywell IBM 370 Interdata
6000 8/32
ASCII ASCII EBCDIC ASCII
char 8 bits 9 bits 8 bits 8 bits
int 16 36 32 32
short 16 36 16 16
long 32 36 32 32
float 32 36 32 32
double 64 72 64 64
When 64-bit machines are the rave, will short-int-long refer to 16-32-64 bit
integers? Or 32-64-64? Or 36-36-36 :-? The programmer needs more control
than provided by C.
--------
jaa
Technical Details
Message-ID:
<670005@hpmwjaa.HP.COM>Path:
arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!rutgers!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!purdue!decwrl!hplabs!hp-ses!hpcea!hpnmdla!hpmwtd!jeffaReferences:
<19063@winchester.mips.COM>Show Full Headers
Complete Article Headers
Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!rutgers!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!purdue!decwrl!hplabs!hp-ses!hpcea!hpnmdla!hpmwtd!jeffa From: jeffa@hpmwtd.HP.COM (Jeff Aguilera) Newsgroups: comp.arch Subject: Re: Re: 80486 vs. 68040 code size [really: how many regs] Message-ID: <670005@hpmwjaa.HP.COM> Date: 1 Jun 89 19:29:26 GMT References: <19063@winchester.mips.COM> Organization: HP Microwave Tech. - Santa Rosa, Ca. Lines: 36