🚀 go-pugleaf

RetroBBS NetNews Server

Inspired by RockSolid Light RIP Retro Guy

Article View: comp.arch
Article #22389

Re: CISC Silent Spring

#22389
From: Andy Glew
Date: Mon, 12 Feb 1990 18:50
27 lines
1815 bytes
>>Vector machines always run faster on vector problems than non vector
>>machines.  Even if the cycle time is a little slower.
>
>I don't believe this. 

How about a bit of hand-waving?:

If instruction dispatch is your bottleneck, vector machines are faster
because they dispatch multiple operations with one instruction.  Usually
the operations are simple, with trivial dependencies.  Really RISCy
vector machines do not require hardware to resolve the possible dependencies.

CISCs may dispatch multiple operations per instruction, but the
dependencies are typically more complicated and the operations dispatched
are less regular.

Superscalar RISCs (or CISCs) dispatch multiple operations per
"instruction decode cycle", but the operations dispatched are less
regular and the dependencies are more general.


Of course, if instruction dispatch is not your bottleneck,
and you are limited by things like data memory access and dependency
depth, then you use the most powerful multiple operation dispatch
technique you can get away with.
--
Andy Glew, aglew@uiuc.edu
Technical Details
Message-ID: <AGLEW.90Feb12135002@oberon.csg.uiuc.edu>
Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!samsung!brutus.cs.uiuc.edu!ux1.cso.uiuc.edu!ux1.cso.uiuc.edu!aglew
References: <3300098@m.cs.uiuc.edu> <771@sce.carleton.ca> <35456@mips.mips.COM> <25cb6b65.702c@polyslo.CalPoly.EDU> <7826@pt.cs.cmu.edu> <3562@odin.SGI.COM> <35647@mips.mips.COM> <51951@bbn.COM> <26765@cup.portal.com>

Show Full Headers
Complete Article Headers
Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!samsung!brutus.cs.uiuc.edu!ux1.cso.uiuc.edu!ux1.cso.uiuc.edu!aglew
From: aglew@oberon.csg.uiuc.edu (Andy Glew)
Newsgroups: comp.arch
Subject: Re: CISC Silent Spring
Message-ID: <AGLEW.90Feb12135002@oberon.csg.uiuc.edu>
Date: 12 Feb 90 18:50:02 GMT
References: <3300098@m.cs.uiuc.edu> <771@sce.carleton.ca> <35456@mips.mips.COM>
 <25cb6b65.702c@polyslo.CalPoly.EDU> <7826@pt.cs.cmu.edu>
 <3562@odin.SGI.COM> <35647@mips.mips.COM> <51951@bbn.COM>
 <26765@cup.portal.com>
Sender: news@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (News)
Organization: University of Illinois, Computer Systems Group
Lines: 27
In-Reply-To: bcase@cup.portal.com's message of 9 Feb 90 19:34:57 GMT