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Article #22651Re: IBM RISC
From: Doug Mohney
Date: Tue, 27 Feb 1990 17:11
Date: Tue, 27 Feb 1990 17:11
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>IBM has a couple of things going for it.
>1. The 6000 has the IBM logo. (This was one reason often presented for
> IBM's success with the IBM PC.)
>2. The 6000 is significantly better (i.e. faster) than the competition.
>3. The 6000 has the backing of a large sales and support network.
>
You left out:
4. IBM went to the time and trouble to get a large base of third-party
software running on their platforms
5. IBM got "real UNIX" compatability, in the form of Berkley/POSIX and NFS
stuff.
6. MicroChannel provides an upgun to co/multiprocessing, plus lots of
boards developed for the PS/2 world.
>SUN and MIPS have a couple of things against them.
>1. Their machines are slower than the 6000.
Both DEC/MIPS and Sun haven't put their cards on the table yet. They are
rumored to release 20 MIPS boxes by May, and bring something (current product
line?) in under 10K/box; IBM's entry-level machine is 13K. If DEC and/or Sun
come out with 10 MIPS/5K-7K boxes to complement their 20K/10-12K boxes, life
gets very interesting.
>Are we going to see a replay of the Apple II vs. IBM pc situation in
>the early 80s?
>...
>Here we have SUN and MIPS, the companies that first came out with
>good RISC machines (like Apple that first came out with a good
>personal computer--much better than the TRS-80 8^) ). hmmmm....
>
IBM's machines will promote UNIX/workstation concepts, but it remains to be
see if IBM can continue to perform technology upgunning year after year. The
PS/2 lines are overpriced and stagnant, while Compaq and various other PC-clone
makers have bigger market share than IBM.
Finally, the workstation market is inheritantly competitive. Before IBM
jumped into the fray, DEC, Sun and HP/Apollo were/are having a blood battle
of MIPS/bucks.
Look for IBM to take 7-10% of existing marketshare due to price/performance
over the next two years, and for them to grab up to 50% of whatever more
market which they create by their announcement.
The speculative math is left as an exercise to the reader :-)
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