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Re: 64-bit addresses

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From: Tom Littauer
Date: Sat, 03 Mar 1990 02:28
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In article <1990Mar2.232735.6071@world.std.com> bzs@world.std.com (Barry Shein) writes:
>
> ... a good summary of 370 architecture history, but there're a few nits...
>
>At that point of course they're out of juice, and about all one can do
>is what was described, use any more memory as a fast place to store
>things while they're not in use rather than going to disk. I wonder
>why they didn't re-invent the separate I&D space of the PDP-11?

Well, they did. In the *NEW* architecture, ESA, they've added an addressing
mode which allows one instruction to work in two address spaces at the
same time, while living in a third. I forget the absolute limit on the
number of address spaces that can be so used, but it's over 4K. The buzzname
for this is Hiperspaces (probably TM IBM).

>The major economic advantage is not having to move to a non-370
>architecture.

... and a non-trivial one, as you point out.

>               It probably still is a cost-effective database
>transaction machine for very large databases and other similar
>data-intensive tasks.

It is indeed, especially if you use UNIX (definitely TM AT&T) as the
operating system. Double especially if you can run the older proprietary
stuff at the same time on the same machine.

>So, there's reasons to keep kicking that dead whale down the beach.
>-- 
>        -Barry Shein

Thank you for your support :-)
Tom Littauer
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From: littauer@uts.amdahl.com (Tom Littauer)
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Subject: Re: 64-bit addresses
Summary: A few words on 360/370/XA/ESA
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Date: 3 Mar 90 02:28:00 GMT
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