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Article #23098Re: GPL and NDAs
From: Christopher Browne
Date: Tue, 01 Feb 2000 00:00
Date: Tue, 01 Feb 2000 00:00
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Centuries ago, Nostradamus foresaw a time when Isaac would say: >On Tue, 01 Feb 2000 03:47:27 GMT, Christopher Browne ><cbbrowne@knuth.brownes.org> wrote: >>Centuries ago, Nostradamus foresaw a time when Isaac would say: >>>Ownership may not be essential, but certainly when ownership changes >>>there can be no question that distribution has taken place. When >>>a change of ownership does not take place, then further analysis is >>>required. >> >>The notion that this has anything much to do with ownership is Just >>Plain Silly. >> >Hopefully you are getting a good laugh from all the silly discussion :} > >>Note that the FSF does not require that people "transfer ownership" of >>code to the FSF; if you make significant contributions of code to >>FSF-related projects, you are required not to give ownership, but >>rather to *assign copyright.* >> > >Noone is talking about ownership of the software. People are discussing >ownership of machines that software is installed to discuss a particular >distribution problem. People are additionally talking about ownership >of copies of software which obviously does have significance in copyright >law. ... And they are discussing ownership when it is an *irrelevant* factor. I do not "own" the Linux kernel even though I have permission via copyright law to make as many copies as I like. People may own media. They may own computers. But unless there was an agreement to transfer ownership, they do not own the software unless they are the authors. Not even with GPLed stuff. When you head down the "I'm *so* confused about who might own this software!" path, this does disservice to RMS who intended that the question *become irrelevant.* If the software is licensed under the GPL, that establishes a certain set of copying rights. And those rights have *nothing* to do with ownership. -- When replying, it is often possible to cleverly edit the original message in such a way as to subtly alter its meaning or tone to your advantage while appearing that you are taking pains to preserve the author's intent. As a bonus, it will seem that your superior intellect is cutting through all the excess verbiage to the very heart of the matter. -- from the Symbolics Guidelines for Sending Mail cbbrowne@ntlug.org - - <http://www.ntlug.org/~cbbrowne/lsf.html>
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 1025b4,92d97b78a13510de X-Google-Attributes: gid1025b4,public X-Google-Thread: 102b75,6e7c0786c7ba904e X-Google-Attributes: gid102b75,public From: cbbrowne@knuth.brownes.org (Christopher Browne) Subject: Re: GPL and NDAs Date: 2000/02/01 Message-ID: <slrn89dpro.7ob.cbbrowne@knuth.brownes.org> X-Deja-AN: 580342530 References: <y4902dyklq.fsf@mailhost.neuroinformatik.ruhr-uni-bochum.de> <84ga7c$mih$1@nntp3.atl.mindspring.net> <1999Dec30.151712.1@eisner> <386BD144.22362F3A@gmx.de> <o5wvpubn8g.fsf@tofu.to.cygnus.com> <386E890B.1B191CB@gmx.de> <o5iu1bnlr9.fsf@toenail.to.cygnus.com> <3871419C.7D23AE72@gmx.de> <38805954.BC45E825@quiotix.com> <qhu2kefjv0.fsf@ruckus.brouhaha.com> <38819C4C.BD383DFD@quiotix.com> <qh7lha9fms.fsf@ruckus.brouhaha.com> <38839E3D.22DE182E@gmx.de> <qhwvp8paaw.fsf@ruckus.brouhaha.com> <388F8A3B.19C57187@home.com> <86pjhm$crf$1@justus.ecc.lu> <m2k8kryeac.fsf@barnowl.demon.co.uk> <871va3$dm3$1@pyrite.mv.net> <3894AE0F.7DD7547C@quiotix.com> <3894EB2B.EC6F5A45@home.com> <389540A7.6012E51F@quiotix.com> <slrn89b8nb.4u.isaac@latveria.castledoom.org> <3895A4CD.F8E08937@quiotix.com> <slrn89c420.62.isaac@latveria.castledoom.org> <slrn89cls7.p69.cbbrowne@knuth.brownes.org> <slrn89dok0.d2.isaac@latveria.castledoom.org> X-realname: Isaac X-Abuse-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Complaints-To: abuse@GigaNews.Com X-newsgroup: gnu.misc.discuss X-Trace: sv2-hTs5J5oXsbYHyyRgiuOtkB7XrivpAZ1PFIL5TDrkxlGnz9bL3wAv2+LMsglA2HRVzbSOZl7Qe0sfWIw!WSUiwbHNmThxCmz5cFVCik4= Organization: Giganews.Com - Premium News Outsourcing User-Agent: slrn/0.9.6.2 (Linux) Reply-To: cbbrowne@hex.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 01 Feb 2000 08:02:39 CST Newsgroups: comp.arch,gnu.misc.discuss