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Article #2588Re: ATTACK OF KILLER MICROS
From: Robert Colwell
Date: Sun, 15 Oct 1989 02:12
Date: Sun, 15 Oct 1989 02:12
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In article <35825@lll-winken.LLNL.GOV> brooks@maddog.llnl.gov () writes: >Fact number 1: >The best of the microprocessors now EXCEED supercomputers for scalar >performance and the performance of microprocessors is not yet stagnant. >On scalar codes, commodity microprocessors ARE the fastest machines at >any price and custom cpu architectures are doomed in this market. I take my hat off to them, too, because that's no mean feat. But don't forget that the supercomputers didn't set out to be the fastest machines on scalar code. If they had, they'd all have data caches, non-interleaved main memory, and no vector facilities. What the supercomputer designers are trying to do is balance their machines to optimally execute a certain set of programs, not the least of which are the LLL loops. In practice this means that said machines have to do very well on vectorizable code, while not falling down badly on the scalar stuff (lest Amdahl's law come to call.) So while it's ok to chortle at how the micros have caught up on the scalar stuff, I think it would be an unwarranted extrapolation to imply that the supers have been superseded unless you also specify the workload. And by the way, it's the design constraints at the heavy-duty, high parallelism, all functional-units-going-full-tilt-using-the-entire-memory- bandwidth that make the price of the supercomputers so high, not the constraints that predominate at the scalar end. That's why I conclude that when the micro/workstation guys want to play in the supercomputer sandbox they'll either have to bring their piggy banks to buy the appropriate I/O and memory, or convince the users that they can live without all that performance. Bob Colwell ..!uunet!mfci!colwell Multiflow Computer or colwell@multiflow.com 31 Business Park Dr. Branford, CT 06405 203-488-6090
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Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!wuarchive!gem.mps.ohio-state.edu!ginosko!uunet!mfci!colwell From: colwell@mfci.UUCP (Robert Colwell) Newsgroups: comp.arch Subject: Re: ATTACK OF KILLER MICROS Message-ID: <1081@m3.mfci.UUCP> Date: 15 Oct 89 02:12:04 GMT References: <35825@lll-winken.LLNL.GOV> Sender: colwell@mfci.UUCP Reply-To: colwell@mfci.UUCP (Robert Colwell) Organization: Multiflow Computer Inc., Branford Ct. 06405 Lines: 33