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Re: RISC vs CISC (rational discussion, not religious wars)

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From: Andy-Krazy-Glew
Date: Sun, 12 Nov 1989 00:33
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	1) With an on-chip cache it is a lot easier to implement 
	   a wide datapath (64 or 128 bits) between the cache and 
	   the register file than it is with an off-chip cache,
	   which requires lots of pins and lots of routing.
	   A wide datapath allows the use of instructions that
	   take advantage of the extra bandwidth to 
	   i) save/restore the register file quicker (for example 
	   on calls/returns) and
	   ii) load and store double precision operands in one cycle
	   (two double precision operands can be loaded with 128 bits).

I'm a wide datapath proponent myself, but some of my contacts have
responded that so many signals simulataneously changing state at the
same time => huge instantaneous power demand.
    
How much of a problem is this *really*?

Can techniques such as slightly delaying groups of lines help?
Eg. provide the LSBs earlier so that caries can propagate while
waiting for the MSBs to arrive on different lines?

--
Andy "Krazy" Glew,  Motorola MCD,    	    	    aglew@urbana.mcd.mot.com
1101 E. University, Urbana, IL 61801, USA.          {uunet!,}uiucuxc!udc!aglew
   
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may account for any possible bias I may have towards our products.
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From: aglew@urbana.mcd.mot.com (Andy-Krazy-Glew)
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Subject: Re: RISC vs CISC (rational discussion, not religious wars)
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Date: 12 Nov 89 00:33:00 GMT
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