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Article #20784Re: (graphics processor speedups)
From: Tim Beres
Date: Mon, 17 Apr 1989 20:33
Date: Mon, 17 Apr 1989 20:33
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[Why doesn't DEC use a graphics processor? Because of CPU speedups?]
Sorry about that paraphrase...Having worked on a number of graphics
accelerators and systems employing the same, I must say that there is
no way an un-graphics-accelerated system will beat the *performance* of
a CPU-does-the-rendering setup. Price/performance is another issue -
definitely not for comp.arch. (-: The evidence:
1. Third-party accelerators having ~5x performance over Sun
CPU in pixrect operations [Tech-Source GDS 3800].
2. Sun's GX and GXP series. These went fairly unnoticed in the
recent product announcements, but present evidence of Sun
targetting graphics performance. Even with the new designs
giving state-of-someones-art MIPS numbers, they chose to
bring out a spiffy new accelerator. Having run some benchmarks
on the GX, I can safely attest to marked performance gains.
I've seen various numbers, but 3-4X over dumb frame buffer is
in the ballpark. With various optimizations, more X's are
in order, I'm told. If I get enough requests and mgmt approves,
I'll see if I get can some numbers out to the net.
In my opinion/guess, DEC went unaccelerated due to price reasons. Likely
wanted the best $$$/CPU MIP ratio at the time. As someone from DEC pointed
out, it wasn't due to the fact that a raw CPU is faster.
An interesting side-note: It appears the future of microcoded graphics engines
are over. As well, general purpose graphics CPU's *appear* to be numbered.
Gate-arrays to perform specific rendering tasks are the way to go. This
statement is doused in gasoline - so flame away.
Tim
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Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!utzoo!attcan!uunet!cadnetix.COM!cadnetix!beres From: beres@cadnetix.COM (Tim Beres) Newsgroups: comp.arch,comp.graphics Subject: Re: (graphics processor speedups) Message-ID: <7459@cadnetix.COM> Date: 17 Apr 89 20:33:37 GMT References: <28930@apple.Apple.COM> <3300064@m.cs.uiuc.edu> <3880@ficc.uu.net> Sender: news@cadnetix.COM Reply-To: beres@cadnetix.COM (Tim Beres) Followup-To: comp.arch Organization: Cadnetix Corp., Boulder, CO Lines: 36