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Article #10768Re: Alpha Architecture Quirks
From: Will Walker
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 19:54
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 19:54
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In comp.arch, jfc@grouse.dsg.dec.com (John F Carr) writes: > In article <1992Dec14.072942.21962@doug.cae.wisc.edu> > keiths@cae.wisc.edu (Keith Scidmore) writes: > > >1) I read that the 21064 divide unit is not pipelined and takes one cycle > > per bit to produce a result. Isn't this going to kill floating point > > performance? [...] I'm > > lead to think that DEC isn't interested in the FP performance of this chip, > > or do I have my facts wrong? > > A double precision floating point divide is slow, but look at the benchmark > results: the Alpha AXP 10000 is rated at 200 SPECfp92. If you buy the > low-end model you get 112 SPECfp92. Obviously divide performance isn't > critical to this large selection of real-world applications. Quite right, SPECfp92 is not very sensitive to divide or square root latency. Which applications are? Possibly 3D graphics. Perhaps Mr. Scidmore's applications are sensitive to divide latency since he brought it up? I don't know. > In any case, considering the clock speed difference between Alpha AXP and > competitive systems you are better off counting nanoseconds instead of ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ That's right, you should compare latencies in nanoseconds, not cycles. I'll add an HP machine to your table. > DEC Alpha AXP IBM RS 6000 > 133 Mhz 150 Mhz 41 Mhz 62.5 Mhz > cycles ns ns cycles ns ns > FP mult or add 6 45 40 2 48 32 > FP divide 63 473 420 20 480 320 HP 735 100 MHz cycles ns FP mult or add 2 20 FP divide 15 150 - Will Walker my own opinions
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From: wlw@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Will Walker) Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 19:54:57 GMT Subject: Re: Alpha Architecture Quirks Message-ID: <8840087@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM> Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu!usenet.ins.cwru.edu!gatech!swrinde!sdd.hp.com!hpscit.sc.hp.com!hplextra!hpfcso!wlw Newsgroups: comp.arch References: <1992Dec14.072942.21962@doug.cae.wisc.edu> Lines: 43