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Article #25Re: genindex 1.0 released
From: Markus Stumpf
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 10:26
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 10:26
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In article <O5R6LX@math.fu-berlin.de>, heiko@Harpo.Chemie.FU-Berlin.DE (Heiko Schlichting) writes: |> Because the connection to Berlin are so slow, here are the first 20 |> lines from this INDEX to show the format: |> |> #NAME ftp.FU-Berlin.DE |> #ADDRESS 130.133.4.50 |> #ORGANIZATION Freie Universitaet Berlin |> #LOCATION Berlin, Germany; 52 31 N / 13 24 E |> #ACCESS no restrictions |> #MAIL ftp-adm@FU-Berlin.DE |> #SERVER-TIMEZONE +0200 (MET DST) |> # |> #INDEX-TIMEZONE +0000 (UTC) |> #VERSION 1.0 (28-Aug-1992); de-mirror INDEX format |> #CREATED 07-Sep-1992 01:00 |> # |> DR-X 0 24-Aug-1992 00:02 / |> DRWX 0 04-Sep-1992 01:43 /incoming |> DRWX 0 24-Aug-1992 16:57 /incoming/amiga |> FRW- 4435 01-Jul-1992 16:48 /incoming/amiga/JOES.amiga.sites |> FRW- 583680 24-Aug-1992 16:57 /incoming/amiga/MED_Songs.dms |> FRW- 452 24-Aug-1992 16:57 /incoming/amiga/MED_Songs.readme |> FRW- 168103 03-Jul-1992 12:23 /incoming/amiga/ReOrg_V2.3.lha |> FRW- 210243 07-Jul-1992 17:51 /incoming/amiga/vortaro.lha |> |> |> This format was discussed in the German FTP-mirror mailing list |> (de-mirror@informatik.tu-muenchen.de, to join this list write to |> de-mirror-owner@informatik.tu-muenchen.de - but the conversation language |> in this list is German). The name for this format comes from this |> mailing list: "de-mirror INDEX format". Sorry for the long delay, but I've been on holidays ... Ok, some comments! Unfortunately the Admins in Berlin could not be convinced to use a numeric only date information! I have argued with better sorting capatibilities ... no chance. So again my call: PLEASE USE ISO-DATE (see the FAQ for this group, topic 2 as far as I can remember!) Another topic I'd like to see some discussion about is the naming of files and directories! Here in Munich we used the above format at first :-) We had the philosophy that no whitespace nor backspace should be allowed in directory names or file names for the Unix-style INDEX. This made the first character (F/D/L for File, Directory, Link) unnecessary, as we added a '/' at the end of the name if it is a directory, a link is recognisable by the name being three names with the 2nd name being "->". The Admins in Berlin argued that with whitespace allowed it would at least fail for links. I argued that even with the 'L' in front, you could not exactly decide what the filename and what the linkname is in the following example: /a/b -> /c -> /d/e/f. We also omitted the RWX information, as according to our local philosophy each directory called tmp, incoming or uploads or the like should be writeable for everyone and all other directories should be read only. x-permission for directories are always needed, cause the directory would be worthless otherwise and should not appear in the INDEX file. Same is for files without r-permission! They are worthless and shouldn't show up in the INDEX file! For this reasons I think the RWX information is superfluous. I also tried to convince them not to allow comment-lines ... no chance. Why do I argue again? I want a format that is clear, simply and as short as possible and such easy to parse. Currently I use this format to generate daily diff files. These files can easily be used to generate statistics on what has changed, what is new, what has been deleted and how the size of the archives behaves ... Just a simple awk script ;-) Comments? \Maex -- ______________________________________________________________________________ Markus Stumpf Markus.Stumpf@Informatik.TU-Muenchen.DE
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Newsgroups: comp.archives.admin Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!spool.mu.edu!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!ira.uka.de!math.fu-berlin.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!stumpf From: stumpf@Informatik.TU-Muenchen.DE (Markus Stumpf) Subject: Re: genindex 1.0 released References: <R0G6YKV@mailgzrz.tu-berlin.de> <18d6ulINN7tv@nigel.msen.com> <O5R6LX@math.fu-berlin.de> Originator: stumpf@hphalle0.informatik.tu-muenchen.de Sender: news@Informatik.TU-Muenchen.DE (USENET Newssystem) Organization: Technische Universitaet Muenchen, Germany Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 10:26:36 GMT Message-ID: <1992Sep15.102636.18292@Informatik.TU-Muenchen.DE> Lines: 79