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Started by Jonathan Eunice
Sat, 12 Dec 1992 03:04
archie geographical intelligence?
Author: Jonathan Eunice
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 03:04
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 03:04
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Every time I use archie, I am amazed at (i) how very useful it is, and (ii) how geographically stupid it is. It generally makese sense to use archives that are net-wise close to oneself. Yet archie gives me many site-references in Europe, Japan, Australia, etc in addition to US sites. And I'm sure my friends in Sydney and Munich don't care to use US sites any more than I want to use mine. Is there any way to limit archie's search only to "close" sites? If it's in TFM, I haven't found it. I can hack a script to filter out distant sites, but it seems to me archie would work faster, handle more requests, and be more useful were there a built-in 'give me only local sites' option. This could be simply based on country-codes and still be right most of the time. Thoughts? jse
Re: archie geographical intelligence?
Author: Peter Deutsch
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 06:56
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 06:56
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In article <JONATHAN.92Dec11220406@speedy.cs.pitt.edu> jonathan@cs.pitt.edu (Jonathan Eunice) writes: >Every time I use archie, I am amazed at (i) how very useful it is, and >(ii) how geographically stupid it is. It generally makese sense to >use archives that are net-wise close to oneself. Yet archie gives me >many site-references in Europe, Japan, Australia, etc in addition to >US sites. And I'm sure my friends in Sydney and Munich don't care to >use US sites any more than I want to use mine. > >Is there any way to limit archie's search only to "close" sites? If >it's in TFM, I haven't found it. I can hack a script to filter out >distant sites, but it seems to me archie would work faster, handle >more requests, and be more useful were there a built-in 'give me only >local sites' option. This could be simply based on country-codes and >still be right most of the time. Thoughts? Help is at hand (almost). The new release of the server code (now in the hands of its licensees, although not yet in production in most places) includes the ability to specify both domain information on searches (for example "prog pattern *.edu) which would return only examples of "pattern" from hosts in the domains ending in .edu. In fact, the operator can also define "pseudo-domains" such as "europe", or "northamerica", which could be any set of domains chosen by the operator. These pseudo-domains can then be used in searches as well. The new release also allows you to specify directory path information to further limit searches and lots of other new stuff, as well (such as a "shortform output format" which returns less verbose results, allowing hopefully more rapid scanning of results, since the system so often generates _lots_ of excess hits. Unfortunately, the new release of the Prospero protocol (upon which all this new functionality depends) is not yet frozen and the clients do not yet support it but it _is_ already supported in the server once the client authors start upgrading. We'd hoped to have the protocol frozen and clients usable RSN, although both Prospero development and client development are to a large part out of our hands. For what it's worth the new version is a completely generalized data-gathering engine capable of gathering files (not just filenames) and we're hoping to find sponsors for additional interesting collections of information in the coming months. Contact me for more details. - peterd
Re: archie geographical intelligence?
Author: Eric A. Anderson
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 09:08
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 09:08
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jonathan@cs.pitt.edu (Jonathan Eunice) writes:
[ wants to have only local sites ]
This is one of the featurs of archie 3.0. Sites which upgrade to that
version will have this feature.
-Eric
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Re: archie geographical intelligence?
Author: George Ferguson
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 19:18
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 19:18
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The new release of xarchie (currently in beta test) allows you to sort the results of queries by user-specifiable weights. So while you still might get "useless" answers, at least you can see the "useful" ones first. Watch this space for a release announcement... George -- George Ferguson ARPA: ferguson@cs.rochester.edu Dept. of Computer Science UUCP: rutgers!rochester!ferguson University of Rochester VOX: (716) 275-2527 Rochester NY 14627-0226 FAX: (716) 461-2018
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