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Re: Questions about TBBS

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From: kendel m mccarley
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 17:18
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larry@trauma.rn.com (Larry Snyder) writes:

>Likewise, the message area is very neat and easy to use.  The things to
>keep in mind is that their is no support for external applications (doors)
>unless they are written specifically for TBBS using the TDMS module
>which is an additional $900 (the cost of the TBBS specific modules to run
>under this $900 package are in addition to the $900 (on top of the $900
>for TBBS itself).  Also, TBBS doesn't (as of this time) support the scanning

Like you, I choke on the price of TDBS.  The minimum package is for 16 lines
systems.  I've bought it once to put together a commercial system and didn't
have any problem justifying the money there.  I wish there was a cheaper
version for two to four lines.  I'd rather use TDBS than external doors.
The tradeoff is faster code and many phone lines on one machine (with
TBBS/TDBS) vs. lower cost for code and increased cost of running many 
phone lines with RA type systems.

Your prices seem a little high.  How many lines are you talking about?

>But there still is a limit as to the total number of messages on-line
>at any given time -- I believe that number is small -- around 65K.  65K
>may sound large at first -- but take into consideration the size of a
>backbone usenet newsfeed -- we have 210,000 messages on-line now.  That 16K
>limit will also kill you since many of the newsgroups have messages larger
>than that.  I'm not sure if the 15,752,961 message areas can all be used
>for network echomail -- or if that number is limited to something smaller.

Exactly 60,000 messages for a maximum.  Again there are TDBS workarounds,
but I think Phil should do something about this.  Yes, the 15,762,961
topic areas (not exactly message areas) can be used for netmail.  However,
you have to use the TMail utilities instead of eSoft's mail utilities. 
I bitched for a couple of months about this until I finally got the reply
that there were no plans for topic board support in the mail utilities and
that I should use the TMail utilities.  My position is that eSoft utilities
should support eSoft advertised features.  Oh well, at least I found a way.

>That's just for folks calling in and dumping off echomail/email bundles -
>the processing like you said is another one of those eSoft products that
>is due out "in a couple of months" - which we have heard before..

The tradeoff is that the beta test programs are pretty intense (said from
experience) and the code is very stable when released.  The difference
between the first and second versions of TDBS was pretty incredible and
a direct result of user whining.

Yeah, Phil sure seems to drag his feet a lot.  I want the UUCP Option
Module released YESTERDAY :-)
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From: kendelm@helium.gas.uug.arizona.edu (kendel m mccarley)
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Subject: Re: Questions about TBBS
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