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Re: scheduled events that take phone off-hook?

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From: Willard Dawson
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 17:44
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randall@proteus.qc.ca (Randall Reid) writes:

>russell@alpha3.ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Russell Schulz) writes:
>
>> for five minutes, I can't foresee a problem (realistically).  for longer
>> periods of, say, a half-hour and up, I can easily imagine some fabled
>> network trouble indicator light coming on, and no one being pleased that
>> it was just you wanting to give the world a busy signal.
>> 
>> I don't know if these things really exist or not, myself.
>> 
>> again, just ignoring the rings hurts no one, unless your users are clueless
>> to the point of no return.  even then, if they leave, you're just raising
>> the average IQ of your callers...
>> -- 
>> Russell Schulz  russell@alpha3.ersys.edmonton.ab.ca  ersys!rschulz  Shad 86c
>
>Being busy for a user may be OK but for an incoming uucp call its a
>different story IMHO.
>
>I prefer my uucp sites to appear "busy" if they aren't ready to connect to
>me.   The reason is that my Waffle system will respond quickly to a busy
>signal and I can get on with polling someone else.  If the site doesn't
>answer, Waffle will sit there for 10+ rings waiting to time out.

The answer to that little problem is called "intelligent polling." :-)
If Tom (or whomever actually owns the darned uucico code) would add support
for "retry" time management, you could rest a bit easier and worry less
about your UUCP neighbors going offline.  Something like most real UNIX
uucico's do... "Retry time not reached..."

Of course, if you want to resort to a wrapper program and manage your own
retry-times (calling uucico with specific sitenames), then you've done
effectively the same.  I don't like that too much, but I'm beginning to
think it would be worth the effort, especially now that my own UUCP neigh-
bor count is up around 20, and some of them have had downtime recently.
As long as only a single host is offline, it's not too much a worry.  But,
when three, four, or more are down, you really lose a bunch of time...

I'd rather just call "uucico -s any" and have uucico do it's own dirty
work...

>This amounts to a "lot" of wasted time for a system that makes around
>200 calls/day and has 20 other uucp sites to service (like mine).
>
>-- 
>Randall J. Reid           Internet: randall@proteus.qc.ca | randall@tpg.org
>Le Groupe Proteus         Uucp: uunet!proteus!randall
>Montreal, Quebec CANADA   Voice: +1 514 630 7103,  FAX: +1 514 331 7934
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From: dawson@hobbes.bsan.bls.com (Willard Dawson)
Subject: Re: scheduled events that take phone off-hook?
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