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In article <1990Nov15.165900.3481@watmath.waterloo.edu> kcwellsch@watmath.waterloo.edu (Ken Wellsch) writes:
>How much of 2bsd could be available free like what has been happening
>with 4.3BSD-4.4BSD?  I suspect the ever dwindling number of 11's out
>there makes the hassles of verifying with AT&T what is not "AT&T code"
>is not worth the bother.  Too bad, I don't have a source license.

	alas, not much.  there are bits and pieces of the kernel (mostly
	in the networking area) and a number of the applications (ftp, rsh, 
	rcp, login, and so on) which i've ported from the 'liberated'
	4.3 sources - but no where near enough to even begin to build
	a system with.  also, even 4.4 isn't rid of the scourge of AT&T
	(yet) the last i heard.

	even if a port were done to the 11 of a "liberated" Unix(tm) i 
	doubt the 11'ers could afford the lawyers to proof it.

	*sigh*  cities, states, countries recognize "historical landmarks"
	and grant all manner of special privileges, etc - it would sure
	be nice if the source license restriction would be lifted or eased
	for those who want to use the machine that played a major role in the
	life of Unix.  Any resemblance of the current Unix on a pdp11 to 
	what it was when at&t "supported" the pdp11 (didn't even implement UMR
	handling) is unlikely, but the restrictions remain in place.

	oh, i just took delivery of my own 11/73 yesterday - nifty machine!

	Steven M. Schultz
	sms@wlv.imsd.contel.com (TDY at sms@lonex.radc.af.mil)

In <1990Nov17.041611.1213@lonex.radc.af.mil> sms@lonex.radc.af.mil
(Steven M. Schultz) writes:

>	*sigh*  cities, states, countries recognize "historical landmarks"
>	and grant all manner of special privileges, etc - it would sure
>	be nice if the source license restriction would be lifted or eased
>	for those who want to use the machine that played a major role in the
>	life of Unix.

Maybe we could begin a letter-writing campaign asking AT&T to place
/bin/true in the public domain, so we can freely use the algorithms
used therein?  That would be a good initial step towards making the
rest of UNIX more accessible to all.  The current implementation
appears to be covered by *both* copyright and trade secret.

Until them, here's my own implementation of /bin/true.  I have created
by after carefully reverse-engineering AT&T's version.

--cut here--cut here--cut here--beginning of /bin/true
--cut here--cut here--cut here--end of /bin/true
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