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In article <1991Jan18.162833.11061@zoo.toronto.edu> henry@zoo.toronto.edu (Henry Spencer) writes:
> In article <1396:Jan1811:54:2091@kramden.acf.nyu.edu> brnstnd@kramden.acf.nyu.edu (Dan Bernstein) writes:
> >> ... a sense of perspective is needed.  Hacking
> >> C code to avoid writing a one-line shell script is a gross waste of time
> >> and money unless that program is truly critical to system performance.
> >That depends on your user community. In general, code that will be
> >distributed to thousands of sites should be written efficiently.
> Oh, I quite agree.  Please note that I'm co-author of a major piece of
> code -- C News -- that is distributed to, and in use at, thousands of
> sites.  It relies quite heavily on shell scripts.  The customers are
> generally extremely pleased with its performance.

Well, yes, but that's because you make intelligent decisions about which
code to write in C so that the shell part isn't a bottleneck. Writing
Berkeley's utmp checkers in sh rather than C is pointless.

> People who claim that shell scripts can't be efficient don't know what
> they're talking about.

(Did I say shell scripts couldn't be efficient?)

Efficiency is relative. Now that I have a lot of practice and some good
libraries, I can convert shell code into C code at between 15 and 30
seconds per line, depending how sane the shell code is; I often get a
speedup between 5 and 50 times. This is well worth it for any program
that is often executed and rarely changed. ``who'' and ``users'' are
examples of such programs. I don't get the speedup when the shell script
simply invokes some long-running Cnews programs, but ``who'' is not my
idea of a long-running program.

---Dan