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Article #5Re: Compression versus Bit Rate Reduction?
From: Ed Hall
Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1992 19:11
Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1992 19:11
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Thomas Kinsman (thomas@acadia.Kodak.COM) wrote: : There is no set terminology. However, some terms you will find in the : literature which span the ideas you are talking about are: : A. LOSSLESS COMPRESSION : This communicates that no information is lost. Categories within : lossless compression describe the methods used to achieve lossless : compression. : B. LOSSY COMPRESSION. : Of course, this communicates that the information content is reduced. One thing that is commonly forgotten is that /all/ digital coding of analog information is "lossy." This includes both visual and audible information. It is a mistake to ignore the quantization step when considering the loss in a compression system. Some people have a strong emotional reaction to the term "lossy", as if linear PCM is somehow "lossless." I guess it is a philisophical thing... But it might help to keep in mind that in a real world of finite bandwidths and bitrates, so-called "lossy" compressions can result in much less loss of useful information than so-called "lossless" compressions. 16-bit audio compressed 4:1 with a "lossy compression" will likely sound better than uncompressed 8-bit audio compressed 2:1 with a "lossless compression." A 1536x1536 image compressed 18:1 with JPEG is likely to look much better than a 512x512 image compressed 2:1 with an entropy coder. I really wish that we would find better terms than "lossy" and "lossless" compression, since I think they distort the issues involved and provoke an irrational reaction in people who ought to know better. -Ed Hall edhall@rand.org
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