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4 total messages Started by David Wresinski Sat, 27 Dec 1997 00:00
Help--Placing an Access Database on a Novell server
#35
Author: David Wresinski
Date: Sat, 27 Dec 1997 00:00
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I have developed a rather large database that can be used in my job.
The company I work for uses a Novell LAN. I have no experience in
LAN/WAN.

I have the luxury of being able to work out of my home communicating
with the office by email. Up to this point only one other person in
the office was using my database so I handled all the adds and updates
and twice a week I would upload the MDE file to the office server thru
the internet which the employee would then move to his desktop and
everything has been working fine.

The problem...The company can now see the benefit of my program and
wants to put it on the server so other office personnel can use it.
Since I would want to keep the Design Master on my desktop at home,
could I just:

1. Using Replication Manager, create the Design Master and Replica,
and upload the Replica to the server, then install Office 97 DE Tools
on the server, then create addtional replica's from the copy on the
server.

2. Would I be able to syncronize from the Design Master at home to the
Replica on the server at work thru the internet?

3. How involved would this get? Is there a sequence of steps somewhere
that one could follow. Online Help talks about Replication under MS
SQL Server and Windows NT but the office uses Novell.

4. Would the office need to bring in a contract LAN/WAN guy. 
Re: Help--Placing an Access Database on a Novell server
#36
Author: Richard Steckis
Date: Mon, 29 Dec 1997 00:00
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It does'nt really matter what LAN system you are using (we use Banyan
Vines), the trick is to separate your database into two.  One database
holds just the tables and data.  This is the database that you install
permanently on the network and is known as the backend database.  The other
database holds all the forms, queries, reports etc and is known as the
front end database. A copy of the front end database can reside on either
the network drive or on any work station hard drive.  You attach the back
end tables to the front end database and bob's your uncle you can have 20
people accessing the same data tables from their work stations with the
front end database installed on the work station hard drive.

The beauty of this system is that the corporate data resides on the network
and you can continue to develop your application from your own work station
or home computer.  When you install an upgrade of you application, always
ensure that the attachment paths are correct.  Also ensure that when you
open the backend database for the first time you disable the exclusive
access check box.  I would only use replication for out of office use not
the other way around.  The main database should always reside on the office
network. 

Hope this helps.

David Wresinski <david@catterton.com> wrote in article
<683rbb$lr6$1@gte2.gte.net>...
> I have developed a rather large database that can be used in my job.
> The company I work for uses a Novell LAN. I have no experience in
> LAN/WAN.
> 
> The problem...The company can now see the benefit of my program and
> wants to put it on the server so other office personnel can use it.
> Since I would want to keep the Design Master on my desktop at home,
> could I just:
> 
> 1. Using Replication Manager, create the Design Master and Replica,
> and upload the Replica to the server, then install Office 97 DE Tools
> on the server, then create addtional replica's from the copy on the
> server.
> 
> 2. Would I be able to syncronize from the Design Master at home to the
> Replica on the server at work thru the internet?
> 
> 3. How involved would this get? Is there a sequence of steps somewhere
> that one could follow. Online Help talks about Replication under MS
> SQL Server and Windows NT but the office uses Novell.
> 
> 4. Would the office need to bring in a contract LAN/WAN guy. 
> 
Re: Help--Placing an Access Database on a Novell server
#37
Author: Pete B
Date: Mon, 29 Dec 1997 00:00
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You definitely should split up the application as recommended in the reply,
and follow the scheme to use local copies of the front-end user interface
attached to a back-end data module situated on the network.  The problem
with placing the whole application on the network, as opposed to just the
data, is that the network traffic increases tremendously with the entire
app being run from the network, since the "wire" must carry all of the
query, form, report, module, and macro information to each workstation each
time the user accesses one of those components; so every time you run a
query, for example, Access must download the whole query into the local
workstation as well as the data.

Make sure the Novell setup allows for maximum number of locks allowable. 
You really don't need to use replication, just provide the latest design of
your app as a network download for users to update their workstations as
needed.  Replication is more suited to multiple data locations than it is
for multiple front-end locations, although it can accomodate that too.
-- 
Pete B

Richard Steckis <rsteckis@fish.wa.gov.au> wrote in article
<01bd1405$997add40$4102a8c0@S137838.fish.wa.gov.au>...
> It does'nt really matter what LAN system you are using (we use Banyan
> Vines), the trick is to separate your database into two.  One database
> holds just the tables and data.  This is the database that you install
> permanently on the network and is known as the backend database.  The
other
> database holds all the forms, queries, reports etc and is known as the
> front end database. A copy of the front end database can reside on either
> the network drive or on any work station hard drive.  You attach the back
> end tables to the front end database and bob's your uncle you can have 20
> people accessing the same data tables from their work stations with the
> front end database installed on the work station hard drive.
> 
> The beauty of this system is that the corporate data resides on the
network
> and you can continue to develop your application from your own work
station
> or home computer.  When you install an upgrade of you application, always
> ensure that the attachment paths are correct.  Also ensure that when you
> open the backend database for the first time you disable the exclusive
> access check box.  I would only use replication for out of office use not
> the other way around.  The main database should always reside on the
office
> network. 
> 
> Hope this helps.
> 
> David Wresinski <david@catterton.com> wrote in article
> <683rbb$lr6$1@gte2.gte.net>...
> > I have developed a rather large database that can be used in my job.
> > The company I work for uses a Novell LAN. I have no experience in
> > LAN/WAN.
> > 
> > The problem...The company can now see the benefit of my program and
> > wants to put it on the server so other office personnel can use it.
> > Since I would want to keep the Design Master on my desktop at home,
> > could I just:
> > 
> > 1. Using Replication Manager, create the Design Master and Replica,
> > and upload the Replica to the server, then install Office 97 DE Tools
> > on the server, then create addtional replica's from the copy on the
> > server.
> > 
> > 2. Would I be able to syncronize from the Design Master at home to the
> > Replica on the server at work thru the internet?
> > 
> > 3. How involved would this get? Is there a sequence of steps somewhere
> > that one could follow. Online Help talks about Replication under MS
> > SQL Server and Windows NT but the office uses Novell.
> > 
> > 4. Would the office need to bring in a contract LAN/WAN guy. 
> > 
> 
> 
Re: Help--Placing an Access Database on a Novell server
#38
Author: Peter Cunicelli
Date: Tue, 30 Dec 1997 00:00
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Hi,
  I second this recommendation.  I use Access 2.0 databases on a Novell 3.12
network.  I put the data on the network and the program on the systems.  It
works well.  If you need to update those systems, then make sure that when you
install them on the local computers that they're all installed in the same
directory.  Then, in 3.12, I keep all the people who have specific databases in
a group.  When they logon, if necessary, I copy the updated version of the
database to their directory.  It's very easy and manageable from a single
workstation.

Peter

Pete B wrote:

> You definitely should split up the application as recommended in the reply,
> and follow the scheme to use local copies of the front-end user interface
> attached to a back-end data module situated on the network.  The problem
> with placing the whole application on the network, as opposed to just the
> data, is that the network traffic increases tremendously with the entire
> app being run from the network, since the "wire" must carry all of the
> query, form, report, module, and macro information to each workstation each
> time the user accesses one of those components; so every time you run a
> query, for example, Access must download the whole query into the local
> workstation as well as the data.
>
> Make sure the Novell setup allows for maximum number of locks allowable.
> You really don't need to use replication, just provide the latest design of
> your app as a network download for users to update their workstations as
> needed.  Replication is more suited to multiple data locations than it is
> for multiple front-end locations, although it can accomodate that too.
> --
> Pete B
>
> Richard Steckis <rsteckis@fish.wa.gov.au> wrote in article
> <01bd1405$997add40$4102a8c0@S137838.fish.wa.gov.au>...
> > It does'nt really matter what LAN system you are using (we use Banyan
> > Vines), the trick is to separate your database into two.  One database
> > holds just the tables and data.  This is the database that you install
> > permanently on the network and is known as the backend database.  The
> other
> > database holds all the forms, queries, reports etc and is known as the
> > front end database. A copy of the front end database can reside on either
> > the network drive or on any work station hard drive.  You attach the back
> > end tables to the front end database and bob's your uncle you can have 20
> > people accessing the same data tables from their work stations with the
> > front end database installed on the work station hard drive.
> >
> > The beauty of this system is that the corporate data resides on the
> network
> > and you can continue to develop your application from your own work
> station
> > or home computer.  When you install an upgrade of you application, always
> > ensure that the attachment paths are correct.  Also ensure that when you
> > open the backend database for the first time you disable the exclusive
> > access check box.  I would only use replication for out of office use not
> > the other way around.  The main database should always reside on the
> office
> > network.
> >
> > Hope this helps.
> >
> > David Wresinski <david@catterton.com> wrote in article
> > <683rbb$lr6$1@gte2.gte.net>...
> > > I have developed a rather large database that can be used in my job.
> > > The company I work for uses a Novell LAN. I have no experience in
> > > LAN/WAN.
> > >
> > > The problem...The company can now see the benefit of my program and
> > > wants to put it on the server so other office personnel can use it.
> > > Since I would want to keep the Design Master on my desktop at home,
> > > could I just:
> > >
> > > 1. Using Replication Manager, create the Design Master and Replica,
> > > and upload the Replica to the server, then install Office 97 DE Tools
> > > on the server, then create addtional replica's from the copy on the
> > > server.
> > >
> > > 2. Would I be able to syncronize from the Design Master at home to the
> > > Replica on the server at work thru the internet?
> > >
> > > 3. How involved would this get? Is there a sequence of steps somewhere
> > > that one could follow. Online Help talks about Replication under MS
> > > SQL Server and Windows NT but the office uses Novell.
> > >
> > > 4. Would the office need to bring in a contract LAN/WAN guy.
> > >
> >
> >



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